Hello,

While this is a bug, I don’t think that it’s worth threatening to sue Apple 
over. It takes some time in the development world to fix bugs, and to get them 
approved in the update cycle. I think that you will have better luck with 
reporting bugs through Apple Accessibility, than getting lawyers involved. This 
is not a denial of access issue, it literally is a bug, that someone has found 
a work around for. It sounds pretty simple to work around it too. Just my 
thoughts, I’m sure you’re going to rip me a new one now, so go on with your 
rant.

Thanks for listening,

Ed



> On May 22, 2023, at 2:21 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> And for all US citizens, report tot he federation of the blind maybe their 
> lawyers can send some legal letters to Apple or start some legal action.
> I am fed up wit all those nasty bugs!
> Apple must stop making publicity fort heir accessibilitiy enhancements in 
> ios17 if they are not even able to solve the now ongoing bugs like this bug 
> and the dictation inconveniences!
> Davy
>  
> Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens Richard Turner
> Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2023 21:08
> Aan: [email protected]
> Onderwerp: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
> UPDATE to ios16.5
>  
> You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do 
> something about it. [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>  
> 
>  
>  
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> 
>> On May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything 
>> works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, 
>> but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I 
>> hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If 
>> I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting 
>> VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, 
>> panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. 
>> Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are 
>> seeing?
>>  
>> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
>> remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
>>  
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Yep, that’s it.
>>> Devin Prater
>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>  
>>> Https://devinprater.micro.blog <https://devinprater.micro.blog/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hello.
>>>> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
>>>> 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
>>>> problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
>>>> and I'm not aware?
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/22/23, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Folks
>>>>> 
>>>>> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
>>>>> accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
>>>>> 
>>>>> The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not 
>>>>> work
>>>>> as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
>>>>> DO COMPLAIN with Apple NOOOOW!
>>>>> Davy
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