Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[CHELA Robles]

I agree with Ed. Also, David coupons messages when reading with voiceover sounds like it’s in another language even though it’s technically an English it’s reading in a different text to speech voice and it sounds really weird. Even though, I have my language automatically set to English and I have an English voice. Perhaps he used a non-English keyboard to write in English I don’t know, but anyway, hopefully they’ll fix it. At least the Apple will hopefully fix the braille issue they usually do. If people nicely report this to Apple accessibility. Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello, While this is a bug, I don’t think that it’s worth threatening to sue Apple over. It takes some time in the development world to fix bugs, and to get them approved in the update cycle. I think that you will have better luck with reporting bugs through Apple Accessibility, than getting lawyers involved. This is not a denial of access issue, it literally is a bug, that someone has found a work around for. It sounds pretty simple to work around it too. Just my thoughts, I’m sure you’re going to rip me a new one now, so go on with your rant. Thanks for listening, Ed On May 22, 2023, at 2:21 PM, <davycupp...@gmail.com> <davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote: And for all US citizens, report tot he federation of the blind maybe their lawyers can send some legal letters to Apple or start some legal action. I am fed up wit all those nasty bugs! Apple must stop making publicity fort heir accessibilitiy enhancements in ios17 if they are not even able to solve the now ongoing bugs like this bug and the dictation inconveniences! Davy   Van: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> Namens Richard Turner Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2023 21:08 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5   You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do something about it. supp...@voicedream.com       Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com   On May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote: Hi,   I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are seeing?   I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.   Best, Anna   On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote:   Yep, that’s it. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com   Https://devinprater.micro.blog On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote:   Hello. I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues and I'm not aware? Scott On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com <davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote: Folks For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple accessibility NOW, do it NOW! The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't. This bug has been introduced in ios16.5. DO COMPLAIN with Apple NOOOOW! Davy -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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