No, a smart door lock does not open such a secondary lock. Basically think of a smartlock as a replacement of your existing deadbolt, bujt instead of just a keyhole on the outside and the lever on the inside you throw or turn to lock/unlock, the smart door lock also has a small box mounted on the inside which still contains a manual thumb lever/turn to lock/unlock, but it also houses the motor which turns it electronically when you use the keypad or phone to unlock it and of course a battery compartment. The outside still has a standard kehyhole where you can unlock with a key, but there is also a keypad, either with buttons or a touch screen. There still are also door locks which have a fingerprint sensor, but they were more popular 10 or 15 years ago. I had I think at least 2 and they could be quite fiddly reading your print especially in the winter when it is cold here and I may have dry and cold hands etc.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 10:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: smart locks Hi Sieghard, Thank you for this. I’m also wondering because I have a Door nob that has a small push in lock on it too. Would I need to replace the door nob too, or would the smart lock open that one too. I am definitely considering on buying a smart lock, but I’ve never heard of them until now. So, all this is new to me. Janet From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 12:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: smart locks Janet, I believe there are locks which can use an existing setup, but typically the smartlock is the deadbolt and you are much better off with a good Schlage, August, Wiser, Yale or other smartlock than to try and put something over an existing deadbolt which will turn it. Most of such locks are relatively easily installed although most people probably would need some sort of sighted help to do it. Basically you simply remove the existing deadbolt which is normally done by removing 2 screws on the inside and you may have to remove the strike plate on the edge of the door and replace it with what comes with the smartlock, but so far all such locks I have had come with a couple of different pieces of hardware so they can be used virtually to replace any standard deadbolt installation. On the outside you then have the keypad which can be either something with buttons or a touchscreen and on the inside you have a box which contains the motor to turn the deadbolt and the batteries, typically either 4 AA or 1 square 9 Volt, AA seems to be the more common type now. As Matter/thread support becomes a thing in home automation I would at this point never buy a new smartlock which didn't support this as it makes connection to other smart home devices and standards such as Apple's Home Kit, Alexa or Google Home much simpler. In my opinion the Schlage Encode Plus is the lock to check out; it is of course entirely possible Schlage may have released a new version, but if not make sure it says "Encode Plus" and not just "Encode". From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 7:43 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: smart locks Joseph, This sounds very interesting! I wonder if they sell something that goes over a Deadbolt, as that is what I currently have on both my doors? I also wonder if this could be pared with a video ring doorbell. Thank you. Janet From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of joseph hudson Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:49 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: smart locks Well, Janet, you would have two options. You can go onto the app and set them up with their own code, and make a tap in the code to get in that way, or you can open the app no matter wherever you're at and you can tap on the lock image and it will unlock the door. On May 31, 2023, at 8:43 PM, janet gross <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Joseph, This does sound great, as I had no idea about smart locks. I would be interested in buying one of these. But, my next question is how far do you have to be away. For example, I am at the store, and the store is 10 miles away, how could I let you in my door? I’m thinking of the distance before I could let someone in my door using the app on my phone. Janet From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of joseph hudson Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 1:13 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: smart locks Hi Janet, the purpose of smart door locks are, let's just say, do you want to send somebody to your house, to pick up something for you. But you're not home. You could either unlock it for them, or you can give them a virtual key that you could later just dispose of or, let's say you left your house and accidentally forgot to lock your doors. You could launch that app, and lock your doors directly from the app. On May 25, 2023, at 10:44 PM, janet gross <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi All, This might sound a little silly, but what is the purpose of a smart door lock? Janet From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 8:26 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: smart locks Then you either type in the code if you are able or can do so with the help of Aira or Be My Eyes or you use a key. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:41 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: smart locks Out of curiosity what happens if there is a power outage? ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 4:38 PM Subject: RE: smart locks We also have a Schlage lock. I am just waiting for better availability of the latest model here in Canada which is compatible with whatever Apple calls that new key technology. I think it's called the Encode Plus or something like that. I believe that one also has Matter support. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of joseph hudson Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 10:24 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: smart locks Hi Juan, I just installed the Schlage home smart locks. And they're pretty accessible on iOS. However, the locks themselves are physical touch screens for the keypad. That's why I have to use my smart phone. But I do come with a physical key that you can use to unlock them. 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