I'm not sure what the default size is, but I had it at 100% and reduced it 
to 67% and now the System Haptic on / off button shows.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Richard Turner
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


It is at the default. Since I am totally blind, I never activated the larger 
fonts under accessibility,  display and font size. But when I was teaching 
low-vision users they often needed to increase the font size and I ran into 
that issue. Also, folks who use the zoom feature under accessibility would 
experience that.






Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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  On Jun 22, 2023, at 4:19 PM, Mike B. <[email protected]> wrote:


  
  Richard,

  What do you have your font size set to?  Thanks much.

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 3:30 PM
  Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


  Mike,
  I'm glad that worked. Depending on font sizes and such, sometimes screens 
just don't scroll when you are just flicking right with one finger. But, 
I've found that the three finger swipe up always works.







  Richard, USA.
  “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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    On Jun 22, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Mike B. <[email protected]> wrote:


    
    Richard,

    Well I'll be damned!  LOL  I just tried your suggestion of swiping up 
with 3 fingers and the System Haptics on / off button and the explanation 
for this action are there!  I need to call Apple right now to let them no! 
Thank you so very much!

    Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Richard Turner
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 12:57 PM
    Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


    That is very odd. System haptecs is the next one down. I assume you 
tried flicking up with three fingers to scroll the screen.
    Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility and having them do a screen share 
with you to figure out what is happening.
    Good luck,







    Richard, USA.
    “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John 
Ruskin
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      On Jun 22, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Mike B. <[email protected]> wrote:


      
        The last thing I have in the Sounds and Haptics folder is, Silent 
mode and the explanation of silent mode.  Thank you for your reply.

      Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Richard Turner
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:10 AM
      Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting


      At the bottom of that screen mine says:
      System Haptics on.


      I can toggle it on or off.







      Richard, USA.
      “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John 
Ruskin
      My web site: https://www.turner42.com




        On Jun 22, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Mike B. <[email protected]> 
wrote:


        
        Howdy All,

        I'm curious as to if any others are missing this setting, Turn 
System Haptics on or off toggle button,
        in, Settings / Sounds and Haptics

        My wife and I both are running iOS16.5.1 on SE2022 iPhones, but have 
been missing this setting at least back to early iOS16... as near as we can 
figure.

        I've been in contact with Apple Accessibility and they've taken 
screen shots of my iOS and have sent them to the Apple engineers, but before 
I reinstall our iOS for a minor setting I was curious if anyone else is 
missing this settings.  Another thought is, if this setting is missing, 
could other settings be missing that we're not aware of?
        All input regarding this issue is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

        Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


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