I have Bluetooth in my hearing aids, which is probably the reason why I got a 
sound for Siri. 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 12:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 17.1 just made iOS worse


I just played with this a little and I learned something.

If I am using the phone speaker, then it does the haptic vibrations instead of 
the sound when pressing the button for Siri.  But if I am wearing my Airpods, 
then I do hear the sound.

So the sound is still there, but it is turned off for some reason when using 
the phone speaker.

I do think Siri just has hiccups from time to time.  I experienced this no 
matter what version of iOS I was running.

For best results, wait 2 to 3 seconds after pressing the side button before 
issuing the command.

I just asked Siri to open 5 or 6 different apps back to back, and she did them 
all perfectly.  And one of those was mail, of which I opened multiple times.

One tip:
You can train Siri to listen and understand you better.
Go to Settings, Siri and Search.
Even though I previously had this set to on, when updating to iOS 17.1, it 
turned off the listen for Siri.
Just tap on Siri, hey siri, or both siri and hey siri to turn it on and do the 
practice speaking.
After hitting the continue button, it will give you 5 short siri commands.  It 
will read the command to you, then you are to repeat them.  Once done, you are 
all set.

Hope this helps.

Chris Chaffin




        On Oct 27, 2023, at 11:17 AM, Richard Turner 
<[email protected]> wrote:
        
        

        

        I just said “Siri, open mail” and it opened mail, three times in a row 
successfully.

         

        I don’t know why they thought it was a good idea to remove the sound 
when holding in the side button, but that is one that writing 
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  and providing 
feedback through www.apple.com/feedback <http://www.apple.com/feedback>  is a 
good idea.

         

         

         

         

        Richard, USA.

        “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

         

        My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> 

         

        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Steve Matzura
        Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 7:46 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: 17.1 just made iOS worse

         

        I've been waiting for 17.1 to come out to hopefully fix bugs I'd heard 
about and preferred not to experience. So imagine the look on my face when 
after upgrading from 16.7.2 to 17.1 I said "Siri, open mail," and was answered 
with "which one, phone or mail?". Rather surprised, I answered "mail," and was 
immediately told something went wrong, please try again later. Well, later 
hasn't come yet, because if I tell it to open mail, I get the same thing.

         

        Also, I discovered that instead of playing a sound when I press and 
hold the side button on my 14 Pro Max, I get the double-buzz like you would get 
if VoiceOver weren't running. Haven't yet found a way to reverse this one.

         

        But seriously, opening mail fails? Gimmy back my 16.7.2.

         

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