Hi, Mike:

Thank you, but I updated several days ago and, back then, I remembered about restarting the phone when it acts weird and it didn't help.

Margaret


On 11/23/2023 6:25 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Margaret,
If you've just updated to iOS17... restarting the phone helped both my wife's and my and my phone after updating with the double tap functionality.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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*From:* Alan Lemly <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2023 2:43 PM
*Subject:* Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

Hi Margaret,

I seem to recall folks posting after the release of iOS 17 that the double tap time-out setting was changed to lower the speed needed to execute a double tap. The effect of this would require you to double tap faster in order for it to register.

Go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and double tap time-out witch will be near the bottom of the screen. Mine was currently set to .25 seconds and I executed the increment button to make it .3 seconds which I like better since I don't have to double tap quite as fast. Play around with that setting to see if it helps you.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly
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> On Nov 23, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Margaret Thomas <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
 >
 > Hi, Alan:
 >
> Thank you.  I got Hey Siri back.  I could swear that the 3 choices weren't there when I looked earlier and I was looking for more than 1 item and I was double tapping on Hey Siri.  The double tapping problem is still here and it might have been the problem earlier.  It took about a half dozen tries for the phone to recognize my double taps.  I got the phone 2 years ago yesterday and, as far as I know, I'm double tapping the same as I always have and the phone has just gone nuts.
 >
 > Thanks ,
 >
 > Margaret
 >
 >
 >> On 11/23/2023 3:03 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
 >> Hi Margaret,
>> Go to Settings, Siri & Search, Listen for “Hey Siri”. The setting choices here are 1. “Siri” or “Hey Siri” or 2. “Hey Siri” or 3. Off >> I have mine set to option 2, Hey Siri. When I posted the earlier instructions you are referencing, I believe I was still running iOS 16.X so I expect I made a pig's breakfast of them. >> I'm not sure if you will be successful changing any of your settings if you are having difficulty with the tapping gesture. You can certainly try changing the hey Siri setting to see if you can get what you want.
 >> Good luck and happy Thanksgiving.
 >> Alan Lemly .
 >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Margaret Thomas <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
 >>>
 >>> Good Afternoon:
 >>>
>>> I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to work my way through the changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm having with the update.  I had Hey Siri on and wanted it and not Siri, but am having a problem with Alan's instructions.What do I do after "Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by itself.  Right now, when I do not press the hone button, and invoke Siri by voice, Siri responds with Hey Siri as well as Siri.  I think it may have something to do with the new follow-up feature I think I heard about.
 >>>
>>> The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't want. I may have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in the new info might make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with double tapping since the update and I was hoping to solve the double tapping thing first.  Do I have to solve these before I can fix Hey Siri vs. Siri?
 >>>
 >>> Many thanks,
 >>>
 >>> Margaret
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>> On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
 >>>> James,
>>>> For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go to Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS.
 >>>> Alan Lemly
 >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
 >>>>>
>>>>> I love Hey Ciri. Not one single time in almost one year has any thing accidently triggered Ciri.
 >>>>>
>>>>> All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never noticed.  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because she thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.
 >>>>>
>>>>> If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any version of IOS 17.
 >>>>>
>>>>> Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Regards,
 >>>>>
 >>>>> James B
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
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>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
 >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
 >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
 >>>>> Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem
 >>>>>
>>>>> It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
 >>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
 >>>>>>
>>>>>> Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for follow up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus it cannot give a full answer if it hears anything.
 >>>>>> Pretty pointless.
 >>>>>> I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
>>>>>> Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, then maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around at best even if it works.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
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 >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
 >>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
 >>>>>> Subject: Siri and iOS 17 problem
 >>>>>>
>>>>>> I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 17.1. He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is reading back the information, any little noise will stop her from reading. It is like Siri has an open mic all the time. This behavior just started recently. He thought that an update fixed it, and it worked well for about a day, but then went back to this problematic behavior. Any insights on how to solve this problem would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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