Nor for me: I find I have to triple tap for hours and minutes while in sleep focus; I don’t mind that but if it’s not supposed to do that, rather curious.
All the best Angie > On 25 Dec 2023, at 05:54, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Except that according to Apple they can’t reproduce my issue, according to > them it should simply be a double and triple tap regardless whether sleep > focus is on r not and it is definitely not like that for me. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:31 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > I agree. > I find it mostly consistent. The sleep focus issue is similar to what happens > to voiceover on the phone or wherever if Zoom is also on. A couple gestures > have to add an extra gesture to function. > And I copied that actually from the phone watch app under Clock haptic time. > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/> > > > > > > On Dec 24, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > > I assume you copied this from the Apple support article. The problem is that > for Voiceover users the experience seems somewhat inconsistent, for some the > described double and triple tab seem to work all the time and reliably, > others say they can’t get it to work at all and as I explained, for me the > double and tirple ta work very consistently during the day, but at night when > my sleep focus kicks in I have to use a triple and quadruple tap. Once again, > I have tested and confirmed this now over and over for days on end and it > probably works for me 99% of the time, but with the excdeption of having to > add 1 tap when sleep focus is on. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 10:08 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > > When Apple Watch is in Silent Mode, tap and hold 2 fingers on the watch face > to feel a haptic version of the time. > > When VoiceOver is on, double-tap to feel hours and minutes. Triple-tap to > feel minutes only. below is the hint in the Watch app on the phone for haptic > time, I assume the first part is referring to when voiceover is off. > > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/> > > > > > > > > On Dec 24, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > > It is of course normal that it won’t work with Voiceover turned off. > Apparently there is a gesture for haptic time for non-Voiceover users, but > it’s not a 1-finger double or triple tap. > > > > From:viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>On Behalf Of Tom Rash > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 5:01 AM > To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Apple accessibility reply regarding haptic time on Apple Watch > > It does not work consistently for me. > I have S E version of the watch. It seems like the first time I do a triple > tap, it doesn’t work. If I try it again, it usually works. > If voice over is turned off, it does not work. > > > > > On Dec 23, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > A few days ago the discussion about haptic time on the Apple Watch came up > again and a few people posted they could not get it towrk at all whereas > others had no issues and yet again others seemed to get mixed results. > > On my new Apple Watch Ultra 2 I can use haptic time with very good > consistency, however, there is one oddity which sounds like it is a bug. > First of all, here is what Apple Accessibility said in their reply to the > email I sent them in which I asked for clarification as to which gesture > exactly should work and what result to expect and whether there were any > exceptions: > > Hello Sieghard, > Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a > one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap > for just the minutes. This is with the screen locked. > If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep > or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then > perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled > and managed to get the same results. > If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we > recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support > team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern > through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the > appropriate teams for further investigation. > You will find the contact information for the team in the following support > article:https://support.apple.com/HT209585 > <https://support.apple.com/HT209585> > > The reason why they mentioned sleep focus is because for me a 1 finger double > tap does absolutely nothing when my automatic sleep focus is on. It is set to > start at 10:30 PM and end at 7 AM and by now I have tested and reproduced > this at least 10 times. If I double tap the screen at 10:28 PM or 7:01 AM all > is well and haptic time vibrates the hours and minutes. If I do so at 10:31 > PM or a minute or two before 7 AM the doubl e tap does nothing, but a triple > tap with 1 finger gives me hours and minutes consistently. In the sam eway a > quadruple tap during the time when sleep focus is on gives me just the > minutes in haptic time, of course when sleep focus is not on I already get > just minutes after a triple tap. > > I plan to reach out to the support resources they mention in the arcticle in > the new year because unless some other setting causes this, it should > definitely be something they take a closer look at. > > I would be very curious to know if others have to use a triple and quadruple > tap and if so, whether this is also in certain scenarious or whether it is > always so. 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