I went back and tried Mark's steps. With VoiceOver on, that speaking controller is very inconsistent at best. And, I never could get it to work with Kindle. However, just using VoiceOver, and getting to where I wanted to start reading, and swiping down with two fingers VO read just fine and flipped the pages. Yes, there is a pause as the page turns, but it works.
Richard, USA “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” -- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ > On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:33 AM, M. Taylor <markthew...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Harry, > > First, in order to have the Speech screen feature read a Kindle title, > scrolling through the pages as it reads the text: > > 1. > Make certain that the Kindle app for iOS is closed and removed from the App > Switcher. > > 2. > From the Spoken Content area of Settings, enable the Speech controller. I > suggest that you set the control opacity to 100%. > > 3. > On the Home screen / LaunchPad of your iPhone, locate the Speech Controller > and expand and collapse it a couple of times in order to become familiar with > how it works. Note that the Controller floats on top of the display and will > remain in the same location on the screen. > > 4. > With the Controller collapsed, launch the Kindle app and open a title. Place > focus on the title from the point from which you would like the Speech > Controller to read. > > 5. > Now, expand the Controller and activate the Play button. As long as focus > remains on the Controller, it will read the text of the Kindle title, > continuously. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 2:36 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen > controller in iOS 17.2? > > Whenever i start Speak Screen, for example reading a Kindle book on iPhone 15 > pro or iPad pro M2, it always stops at the end of the page, refusing to > turn the page. This has been my experience for a long time. Any suggestions > about how to fix it? > Thanks > Harry > >> On 27 Dec 2023, at 23:55, M. Taylor <markthew...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Gentlemen, >> >> There are several reasons why the Speech controller can prove to be most >> helpful. >> >> 1. >> Even though Siri can read correctly formatted websites, out lout, it cannot >> read articles from Apple’s own News app. Amazing, eh? So, as I am a big >> fan of Apple News Plus, and frequently find myself reading long articles >> while on the move or doing chores, where I may need to easily stop and start >> Siri playback, engaging the Speech controller allows me playback options >> similar to those found in BARD Mobile, Libby, and the Audible app. >> >> 2. >> Although I am Alexa’s number one fan when it comes to enjoying Kindle books >> via the Kindle app for iOS, slowly but surely, Amazon has removed Wired Ear >> Pods playback functionality from the Alexa app. This is to say, one has to >> use Voice commands, more and more, in order to engage Alexa. There are many >> scenarios in which voice commands simply stop working, for example, if >> iPhone locks or another app grabs focus. >> >> Fortunately, the native Apple speech controller works better with the Kindel >> app for iOS than ever before. So, while certainly not my first choice, if >> given the option, Siri does a remarkably fine job of reading Kindle books >> with more wired Ear Pods playback functionality than Alexa has offered in >> over two years. And the best part? The speech controller now actively >> causes the Kindle app to turn pages, as it reads, just like my beloved Alexa. >> >> So, there you have it, two reasons why I find the native speech controller >> an essential treat in the Apple orchard. >> >> Mark >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Richard Turner >> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen >> controller in iOS 17.2? >> >> Good question Sieghard, >> I thought that was mostly for non-VoiceOver users, or in the case of speak >> screen, if you wanted to lock the phone while reading something lengthy. But >> speak screen only requires a two finger swipe down from the status bar... In >> the past, having both speak selection and speak screen on with VoiceOver >> caused more distraction than helping. But there must be a specific case >> where all that is desired. >> >> >> Richard, USA >> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores >> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” >> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth >> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 27, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> >> wrote: >> Sorry for my ignorance, but what are the benefits of using this speech >> controller? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On >> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright >> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:05 AM >> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen >> controller in iOS 17.2? >> >> Did you remember to set the size of your speaking bar? I set mine to 52% I >> found it at the top next to the volume up button on the left side of the >> phone. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "M. Taylor" <mailto:markthew...@gmail.com> >> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:05 PM >> Subject: With VoiceOver enabled, Can anyone locate the Speech Screen >> controller in iOS 17.2? >> >> >> Hello All, >> >> I feel as though I am missing something. Try as I may, I cannot locate the >> Speech controller in iOS 17.2 when VoiceOver is enabled. Please do the >> following on your iOS 17.2 device: >> >> 1. >> From the Accessibility Settings area, select, Spoken Content. >> >> 2. >> Enable Speak Selection. >> >> 3. >> Enable Speak Screen. >> >> 4. >> Select Speech Controller and enable, Show Controller. >> >> Now, open any app with text or, for that matter, open any dialog box in a >> list view, such as the settings area and see if you can get the feature to >> work. >> >> There used to be a way to see the speech controls at the top of the screen >> but, try as I may, I cannot find them. >> >> By the way, I have my Spoken Content voice set to Siri. >> >> All replies most appreciated. >> >> Mark >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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