I think I will not comment further on this since I am not an audiologist. I'm not comfortable trying to blast earphones to hear over traffic, so I will leave it at that.
Richard, USA "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you." -- Wolfgang Von Goethe My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2312.99 -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 5:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas I have the Open Move from Shokz, which are great, but it may be hard to get the volume high enough if you have a lot of ambient noise. The Bose Frames will also do what you want, but they'll be a bit more expensive than your options from Shokz. They'll give you a bit more volume. I haven't tried the Open Fit from Shokz, but like the Bose Frames, they direct sound into your ear and they're supposed to be louder than your bone conduction options. My next headphones will be the Open Fit. I'm curious about your statement about damaging your hearing would be more likely with headphones over a speakers. Would that really make a difference? If the volume is loud enough to hear over the ambient noise, would it really make a difference if it's coming from a speaker versus a pair of open ear headphones? Also, since bone conduction is skipping your ears altogether, wouldn't they be the safest option? I don't know about any of this. I'm just musing. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 6:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas Sadly, with the open ear, or bone conduction headphones, the fact that they let the surrounding sound in, means that if the sound is really loud, you cannot hear the info through the earphones. If you could, you would probably be damaging your hearing. The Bluetooth speaker idea should work better. I hope folks find what they need. Richard, USA "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you." -- Wolfgang Von Goethe My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2312.99 -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 3:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas Alice, this sounds interesting. Can you ask your friend what the brand of her speaker is? Lisa Belville missktlab1...@frontier.com On 3/1/2024 4:21 PM, CJ & AA MAY wrote: > My friend has a Bluetooth speaker attached to her collar for walking outdoors > which she is pleased with but I don't know the make. > Alison > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard > Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 9:24 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe > Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas > > I seek two-earpiece earphones I can use while walking to hear navigation > guidance from an iPhone app. I need earphones that will play at a high volume > level while I still can hear sounds from around me because I walk streets > with heavy traffic. A microphone isn't essential, although would be a nice > option. I will appreciate recommendations from the list. > > The variety of different Shokz models are confusing--their advantages and > disadvantages. I'm open to other brands. > > I've used a single-ear Voyager Legend Wireless Headset (formerly > Plantronics), but find the volume is insufficient with high ambient noise. > > I will appreciate Any assistance. > > Richard Petty > richard.pe...@earthlink.net > > > > > > I've read several messages about > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:39 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones > > The app only works with OpenFit and OPenRun Pro. I guess that is because of > their newer technology. > I have the standard OPenRun, which cost exactly half what the OprnRun Pro > costs. I also have an older OpenComm headset. I was hoping too they could > have extra features through the app, but they don't. > > > > Richard, USA > “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores > it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.” > -- Cedrick Bridgeforth > > My web site: > https://www.t/ > urner42.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd1d14b67f52c4c64f59808dc3a4bd2f0%7C84 > df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638449344539645219%7CUnknown% > 7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJX > VCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=WRdcIQGGrRJmmTjIPVEelNYayXEc7fiJLf8o5eiH > JkQ%3D&reserved=0 > > Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS > version 2024.2310.70.400 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Mohib Anwar Rafay > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 7:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Shokz Openfit headphones > > Can I configure OpenCom in shokz app? I saw only an option to connect OpenFit > and no other headset. > > On 2/14/24, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote: >> Therein lies the limits of open air, or bone conduction headsets; if >> you want to block out sound from around you, you have to use >> headphones that cover your ears. If you have lots of money to spend >> on headphones, the Apple Airpods Max are fabulous! But, I suspect still >> over $500. >> >> There are lots of over the ear headphones that have noise cancelation >> at lower prices. >> >> HTH, >> >> >> >> Richard, USA >> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God >> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through >> Hell to get it.” >> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth >> >> My web site: >> https://www/. >> turner42.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd1d14b67f52c4c64f59808dc3a4bd2f0%7C >> 84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638449344539650854%7CUnkno >> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi >> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=c9FwsPGsNyy4h2KxcrweYCH5JrXtYBUQQaB >> 2Z25l4%2FQ%3D&reserved=0 >> >> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS >> version 2024.2310.70.400 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of CJ & AA MAY >> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 8:25 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones >> >> Sorry about your water problems, Mark. Yes, I am very pleased with my >> new Openfit headphones and my only disappointment is that you can >> only adjust the volume through your phone, as the phone limits how >> loud it can be turned to protect your hearing, but when my husband >> has a noisy programme on the tv, increasing the sound would be >> useful. But, having said that, for everyday use, the volume is fine. >> Alison >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 3:17 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones >> >> Hello Alison, >> >> I’ve been recovering from the water damage incurred last week’s >> deluge so am just now seeing this thread which I think has been resolved. >> >> 1. >> You can only adjust the Open Fit volume control using the phone >> volume buttons. >> >> 2. >> The Open Fit headset is not bone conducting so do not try to place >> the speakers in front of your ears. Instead, each earpiece is worn >> so that the speaker is located just above your ear canal. >> >> I am so glad you like Open Fit. >> >> Mark >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of CJ & AA MAY >> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 4:35 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones >> >> Thanks for the info Richard. You can increase the bass and trebble >> via the app but it does seem you can only alter the volume by the device. >> Other than this, I am very pleased with my new Openfit headphones. >> Alison >> alter the >> >> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner >> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 3:56 AM >> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Shokz Openfit headphones >> >> I think you need the Shokz app to control your OpenFit headphones. >> Here is the link: >> >> https://apps/ >> .apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fshokz%2Fid1596854072&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd1d14b >> 67f52c4c64f59808dc3a4bd2f0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0 >> %7C638449344539654852%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJ >> QIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=lsHZCk >> mcBO16NtnlkMvsitqCf189xSRZHfOVPX9487o%3D&reserved=0 >> >> >> Richard, USA >> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God >> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through >> Hell to get it.” >> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth >> >> My web site: >> https://www/. >> turner42.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd1d14b67f52c4c64f59808dc3a4bd2f0%7C >> 84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638449344539658610%7CUnkno >> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi >> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=d1kTbubRIOH3UrpCO4F73MF9K4jiRU7W59q >> xk%2F5MiE0%3D&reserved=0 >> >> >> >> On Feb 11, 2024, at 6:59 PM, Viola Bentson >> <mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I’m not sure where the volume control is on these. I have been using >> my phone’s volume. The only thing I can do is stop or start music or >> hang up a call. >> >> Viola >> >> >> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner >> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 6:48 PM >> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Shokz Openfit headphones >> >> Mark Taylor is the one who has the OpenFit. I have the OpenRun and >> OpenComm headphones. >> I do not know how the OpenFit work. Have you tried tapping the volume >> control when nothing is playing? >> >> >> Richard, USA >> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God >> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through >> Hell to get it.” >> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth >> >> My web site: >> https://www/. >> turner42.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd1d14b67f52c4c64f59808dc3a4bd2f0%7C >> 84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638449344539662957%7CUnkno >> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi >> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=4tILY0xr1SdI%2B91zrfFvN3OISM7IBecrC >> jh2wMsuUN0%3D&reserved=0 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 11, 2024, at 6:10 PM, Viola Bentson >> <mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Richard. I just bought these headphones, and I really like them, >> however, is there no audio cues as to battery status? Sorry if you’ve >> covered this already. I really liked the way they fit with no band >> around the back of my head. >> >> Viola >> >> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner >> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 5:23 PM >> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Shokz Openfit headphones >> >> If you do not get enough volume from the headphone control, you have >> to turn it up with the phone volume control. Make sure they are >> sitting on the bone in front of your ears. >> >> >> Richard, USA >> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. 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