I wouldn’t mind paying a subscription fee for an app I use very often. VDR is 
an app I use once or twice a year, for this reason it is not worth it to 
subscribe. However, the subscription fee business model for smart phones apps 
will eventually collapse. With the numbers of apps we need and frequently use 
on our smart devices is rapidly increasing, there will be a point when the 
total sum of monthly subscriptions expenses may exceed the financial 
affordability of an average income individual. In such a situation the majority 
of users with limited income will be cut off from the smart apps market.
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On Mar 26, 2024, at 2:56 PM, Kerry Macdonald <[email protected]> wrote:


That’s true, however, Winston was very much engaged with the blind community 
and talked to us about what worked for us and what did not. These people are 
not engaged with us at all.

Subscription models are becoming way over the top, and these businesses are 
engaging in them due to greed nothing more. You can keep an app going without 
charging outrageous, yearly subscription fees Winston did it for 10 years, and 
yes, he may have had to charge subscription fees, but as I said, he was much 
more willing to work with us, and look at our needs as a community.

Kerry

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On Mar 26, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:


Again, and this should be my last post on this topic, Winston was going to 
start charging because the one-time purchase model is simply not sustainable.

So, you would be making the same charges against Winston had he not had the 
good sense to sell when he did.



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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream

More over this company doesn’t keep their word.  They said when they took over. 
 That grandfathered  users wouldn’t have to pay. Again as others have said I 
would consider it.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Corey 
Cook
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 12:23 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

I have a friend that is a grandfathered user and she got an email this morning 
informing her as of May 1 she would have to pay.


On Mar 26, 2024, at 12:17 PM, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

It’s not clear to me where we older users are grandfathered into not paying or 
not.


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 11:11 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

Hi all,
It's unfortunate that this is a new subscription model for New users but I 
understand developers need to get paid for their work  for such app. 
Considering Voice Dream inclusiveness with Accessibility, it's worth supporting 
in my opinion if you use the app daily. They get continuous updates and the app 
is very robust. There are other apps that do similar   things like speech 
central and speechify.
   I did a bit of research and this is what I found...

11 months ago

Hi all, Voice Dream Team here. Existing users should not be affected and will 
continue to have access to the app. We are migrating to a subscription model 
only for new users. If you have any issues please feel free to contact our 
support team.

  1.


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On Mar 26, 2024, at 8:56 AM, Ron Canazzi 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Group,

I  would be willing to pay up to twenty dollars yearly, but this is ridiculous. 
I could afford it, but it is still way too high for an app on an Apple device. 
As mentioned before, the average price of most apps usable with IOS devices is 
between five and ten dollars US.  Allowing for the smaller market, I could 
easily pay double yearly, but not sextuplet!


On 3/26/2024 3:49 AM, Dennis Long wrote:


They aren't considering that a large number of blind people can't afford $60 a 
year.  They aren't also considering that a large number of blind people aren't 
able to find jobs in the USA.    More over if it were more reasonably priced 
maybe and it’s a big maybe.  It would be a big maybe because the only reason 
they would lower the price is they terribly misjudged the market.

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<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 4:17 PM
To: Viphone <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream

Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59 dollars a year now. A 
pet peeve of mine is everything requires a subscription. I see nothing in there 
reasons for this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It was a 
wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I was one of the first 
to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes me want to cry to lose it, but much more 
important places to put my money. On Social Security with a guide dog and so 
guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books from Bookshare it has 
read to me.

Reggie Alvarado


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