hi, , Sieghard Kudos to you!
Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max! > On Mar 29, 2024, at 7:41 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > You suggest none of us give them a dime, I suggest everybody does what they > feel is best for them and let's stop bad mouthing them because you don't > agree with their business decision which is entirely theirs to make. This is > getting old and it's a repeat of the same issue when some app developer who > started out with a free app realized they had to charge something since free > wasn't paying their bills. It's one thing for a company like Microsoft to > offer Seeing AI for free, it's another thing for an app developer or maybe a > small group of developers who joined together and want to make a living from > what they do to offer their work for free. I remember the outrage when years > ago the Flexy keyboard became a paid app and there are other examples, there > are also some examples where an app was a paid app at first and then it > became a free app and of course people who initially paid a few bucks were > then mad because they could now get it for free. The important lesson is that > none of these apps are around any more and if people want quality apps which > they use daily to continue and to not just get a few bug fixes but also new > features, then they have to pay something for them. How often has this come > over the years regarding Jaws and their SMA cost every two years or more > recently the annual subscription model. Strangely nobody complains about the > monthly or annual subscription costs of Netflix, Disney Plus, Apple TV, Apple > Music, Spotify and on and on. From what I read the new owner of Voice Dream > Reader has released updates with new features, voices are now included, > OneDrive support was added and they say there are plans to add Kindle support > which I think for many would be a very big deal and just because they maybe > haven't joined every iPhone list where they engage directly with our > community does not mean they are a " crappy corporation" who only cares about > money. I own a retail store and it's an incorporated business and I > definitely care about making money because that is my job, but that does not > mean I don't care about my customers and providing them with good service and > about my community where I donate thousands of Dollars each year to all sorts > of organisations, events and fund raisers. The vague statement about the > "crappy corporation and money is all they care about." Indicates that you > probably don't know anything at all about the individuals behind the company > and why they decided to buy Voice Dream Reader, yes, I say buy because while > I also don't know for sure, I am pretty certain Winston Chen didn't just give > it to them after years of work because he is such a nice guy. I also read > another post where it was stated the developer doesn't care or engage with > our community. Let's not forget that this is not strictly an app for the > blind, but it's also for people with dyslexia and just regular sighted people > who want an app which can read books, PDF's, web articles etc. It says in the > app description that it is " Optimized for VoiceOver, Braille and switch > control" and has " High contrast and large font size for low vision > readers.", but that is only part of its many features. > Just move on, buy the subscription and enjoy the app if you want to don't and > shut up if you don't; anything else people say about has been said already. > > Best regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of The > Evil Chocolate Cookie > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2024 2:31 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Jonathan Mosens take on the VoiceDream issue > > I suggest none of us give them a dime. It’s own edby some crappy corporation > now and money is all they care about. > >> On Mar 27, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote: >> >> It appears to me that what ever the rights, wrongs and merits of the new >> pricing structure are the choice is simple, subscribe or don’t. >> >> I doubt very much that the creators of the app in question monitor this >> list so all we are doing is arguing amongst ourselves. >> >> It is well worth noting that software is often licensed and not sold. I >> have an Apple Music subscription and as long as that is active I can play >> any music in their catalogue. They may increase the price of the >> subscription at any time. If I choose to terminate my subscription I am no >> longer able to play their music even if it has been downloaded to my device. >> >> Apps have changed to a subscription model before or added in app purchases >> so this is nothing new or unscrupulous. >> >> Pay your money and make your choice. 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