Hi Wayne,

Is there an accessible way to choose which route to take when Maps offers 
several? I can't figure out how to move to any route besides the first, and 
while VO speaks the time the route will take, I can't figure out a way to find 
anything else out about the route.

Thanks,
Anna



On Nov 27, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Wayne Merritt <[email protected]> wrote:

> Though it may not be as applicable for everyone, don't forget about
> the built in Maps features of iOS 6, with the new iPhone 5 and other
> recent iPhones and iPod Touches, which offer voice guidance if VO is
> off, and a spoken list of directions if VO is on. The more I use Maps
> for GPS in my wife's car, the more I like it. I have found that by
> double tapping on an address in contacts, Maps automatically comes up
> with a choice of routes to take. All I have to do is choose a route,
> hit the route or start button, and then turn VO off for the spoken
> directions. Maps seems to offer the right amount of spoken
> announcements, not too much but not too little. When setting up the
> route you want to travel, you can switch between car, pedestrian or
> transit direction options.
> 
> Jmt,
> Wayne
> 
> On 11/27/12, Raul A. Gallegos <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding
>> sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it
>> again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me,
>> what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I
>> have.
>> 
>> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is
>> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products
>> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user
>> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using
>> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne,
>> or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know
>> what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip
>> code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to
>> it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn direction
>> list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for this if I
>> want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working with Sendero
>> to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset working right, I
>> didn't use all the features available unless I was testing them to make
>> sure they work. For example, I don't need to always know if the
>> intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, or if it dead ends. I
>> don't need constant announcement of how close I am getting to the
>> upcoming intersection. I don't always need the street name announced as
>> I'm crossing it. All these are good features to have, but as I said at
>> the beginning of this post, it depends on what the user wants. I feel
>> that if the user wants the exact level of access and features found in
>> the sendero products, and if the user wants this all available from one
>> app so they don't have to switch, then they will be unsatisfied with
>> what the iPhone currently offers. However if the user doesn't need all
>> the extra features, and is ok with using at least 2 apps to get this
>> level, then the current solutions I think are very nice. In fact, they
>> are far more than what we used to have.
>> 
>> Let's also consider the history. How long has Sendero been making GPS
>> products, compared to how long have the blind had access to the iPhone.
>> I personally feel that when Sendero comes out with their iPhone app, it
>> will be a very nice thing and should offer people who need those extra
>> features and maybe even more than what I've mentioned, to have a
>> solution which will work for them. plus they will have the bonus of it
>> all from one app, so there should be no switching. In the mean time, I
>> can do what I need to do with what I have and I don't feel it is lacking
>> for me.
>> 
>> The other thing I want to mention, and I hate to, but I have to, is that
>> there are some people who depend on GPS technology too much. I'm not
>> knocking what's out there, because I think it's a great thing. However,
>> let's all remember that when using any sort of GPS, always depend on
>> your own orientation and mobility skills first. This is why I don't need
>> to know if the intersection goes through or dead ends.
>> 
>> However this might open up a debate and a can of GPS worms, and so I'll
>> leave it at that.
>> 
>> Hope this helped to answer your question.
>> 
>> --
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>> On 11/23/2012 11:47 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>>> Hi Raul, I want to thank you for this objective comparison; it was
>>> very much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Would you say that between Navigon and Ariadne GPS, you could get
>>> functionality roughly equivalent to that offered on blindness-specific
>>> products such as the Breeze or Sendero GPS for the BrailleNote? I've
>>> always felt that the iPhone could rival any other GPS products if only
>>> I had the right app. But I wouldn't say that Ariadne on its own, in
>>> combination with either the old or the new Apple maps, really does it
>>> for me.
>>> 
>>> Grant
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