Yes Motion X is incredibly accurate. I use it to help us get to mew places 
often.  And we always arrive there without delay. 
I love that app myself! 
~Sharonda 

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 

On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote:

> I use Motion X GPSDrive and for walking, I now use BlindSquare.  I recently 
> discovered a really neat feature with Motion X.  I created a route to my 
> cousin's last Thursday and then created a route to the train station to pick 
> up our son.  I had the usual clear route option, but I noticed I could Add A 
> Stop to the original route.  What that meant was that we went to the train 
> station via Motion X first and then proceeded to my cousin's house, all 
> within one route instead of two separate routes.  A really cool feature!  
> Motion X is easy to use, totally accessible and incredibly accurate for 
> vehicular travel.
> 
> Les
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 5:20 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I use Navigon or TomTom when I require complete directions to a place. Both 
>> apps can run in the background when a route is running, so you can also load 
>> Ariadne or one of the apps which displays nearby POIs if you wish.
>> 
>> I usually just use Ariadne because it has a feature which automatically 
>> announces the updated address every 40 seconds or so. This is often all I 
>> need now that I have trained myself to navigate via street address rather 
>> than cross streets. One of my primary uses is on the bus. I have learned the 
>> nearby addresses for the stop I require. When the announced address gets 
>> close, I ring the bell and exit at my desired bus stop. In most cases, I no 
>> longer need to ask the bus driver for my stop to be announced.
>> 
>> I also use Ariadne when looking for an address in an area that is familiar. 
>> With Ariadne, I just activate the app and activate the start monitor button. 
>> I can even activate Ariadne for a quick check of my current location and 
>> then close it again.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: [email protected]
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 28/11/2012, at 10:53, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, Raul.
>>> 
>>> Can you expand a bit on how you use the 2 GPS in combination? Do you use 
>>> both on one route, or sometimes one and sometimes another? I'd be curious 
>>> how you use both simultaneously, or even how you decide when to use one or 
>>> the other.
>>> 
>>> Also, Waze is new to me; haven't heard that one before. Can you describe it 
>>> a bit? It sounds like it's a substitute for Navigon at times.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance. Keith 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:24 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: 
>>> Navigon on sale today only
>>> 
>>> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding 
>>> sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it 
>>> again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me, 
>>> what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I have.
>>> 
>>> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is 
>>> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products 
>>> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user 
>>> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using 
>>> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne, 
>>> or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know 
>>> what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip 
>>> code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to 
>>> it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn direction 
>>> list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for this if I 
>>> want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working with Sendero 
>>> to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset working right, I 
>>> didn't use all the features available unless I was testing them to make 
>>> sure they work. For example, I don't need to always know if the 
>>> intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, or if it dead ends. I 
>>> don't need constant announcement of how close I am getting to the 
>>> upcoming intersection. I don't always need the street name announced as 
>>> I'm crossing it. All these are good features to have, but as I said at 
>>> the beginning of this post, it depends on what the user wants. I feel 
>>> that if the user wants the exact level of access and features found in 
>>> the sendero products, and if the user wants this all available from one 
>>> app so they don't have to switch, then they will be unsatisfied with 
>>> what the iPhone currently offers. However if the user doesn't need all 
>>> the extra features, and is ok with using at least 2 apps to get this 
>>> level, then the current solutions I think are very nice. In fact, they 
>>> are far more than what we used to have.
>>> 
>>> Let's also consider the history. How long has Sendero been making GPS 
>>> products, compared to how long have the blind had access to the iPhone. 
>>> I personally feel that when Sendero comes out with their iPhone app, it 
>>> will be a very nice thing and should offer people who need those extra 
>>> features and maybe even more than what I've mentioned, to have a 
>>> solution which will work for them. plus they will have the bonus of it 
>>> all from one app, so there should be no switching. In the mean time, I 
>>> can do what I need to do with what I have and I don't feel it is lacking 
>>> for me.
>>> 
>>> The other thing I want to mention, and I hate to, but I have to, is that 
>>> there are some people who depend on GPS technology too much. I'm not 
>>> knocking what's out there, because I think it's a great thing. However, 
>>> let's all remember that when using any sort of GPS, always depend on 
>>> your own orientation and mobility skills first. This is why I don't need 
>>> to know if the intersection goes through or dead ends.
>>> 
>>> However this might open up a debate and a can of GPS worms, and so I'll 
>>> leave it at that.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helped to answer your question.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Too much of a good thing can be wonderful. - Mae West
>>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>>> 
>>> On 11/23/2012 11:47 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>>>> Hi Raul, I want to thank you for this objective comparison; it was
>>>> very much appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Would you say that between Navigon and Ariadne GPS, you could get
>>>> functionality roughly equivalent to that offered on blindness-specific
>>>> products such as the Breeze or Sendero GPS for the BrailleNote? I've
>>>> always felt that the iPhone could rival any other GPS products if only
>>>> I had the right app. But I wouldn't say that Ariadne on its own, in
>>>> combination with either the old or the new Apple maps, really does it
>>>> for me.
>>>> 
>>>> Grant
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