Hello All, This is a marvelous thread.
Before the keynote speech, I was ready to purchase iPhone 17 Pro Max. However, after the speech / presentation, I will definitely not be updating to any of the 17 models. I guess I was hoping for more hardware improvements that did not arrive, this year. The same is true for my Apple Watch. I will be staying with my Ultra 2. I do plan on purchasing the new AirPods Pro, however. I am looking forward to using the translation feature. Mark On Wednesday, September 10, 2025 at 9:30:49 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > Link at end of article. > > iPhone 17 Pro vs iPhone 16 Pro: Here’s everything new > > Apple unveiled its flagship > > iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max > > earlier today at the > > ‘Awe dropping’ event > > alongside new > > AirPods Pro 3, > > Apple Watch Ultra 3, > > and more. Here’s how the new iPhone 17 Pro compares to last year’s 16 Pro > models. > > Displays and durability: Brighter and more scratch resistant > > iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max come in the same 6.3-inch and 6.9-inch sizes as > their predecessors. > > One advantage of this year’s models is they can get even brighter > outdoors, and have 2x better outdoor contrast. > > list of 2 items > > • iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max: 3000 nits peak brightness outdoors > > • iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max: 2000 nits peak brightness outdoors > > list end > > Durability is a big area of improvement with iPhone 17 Pro, thanks to the > new Ceramic Shield 2 with 3x better scratch resistance. There’s also now a > Ceramic > > Shield on the back of the iPhone, which 16 Pro didn’t have. > > Performance upgrades: A19 Pro, more RAM > > iPhone 17 Pro comes with the new A19 Pro chip, which is supercharged by an > “Apple-designed vapor chamber to enhance heat dissipation and performance.” > > Benchmarks aren’t available yet, but Apple says the A19 Pro delivers “up > to 40 percent better sustained performance than the previous generation — > ideal > > for gaming, video editing, and running large local language models.” > > On paper, both the iPhone 17 Pro and 16 Pro include: > > list of 3 items > > • 6-core CPU > > • 6-core GPU > > • 16-core Neural Engine > > list end > > The A19 Pro’s GPU comes with Neural Accelerators—which the A18 Pro didn’t > offer. > > iPhone 17 Pro also has about 50% more RAM, with 12GB widely reported > (Apple has only confirmed so far that it has “more memory”) versus 8GB last > year on > > the 16 Pro. > > Cameras: Center Stage front camera, 48MP Fusion trio, 4x and 8x optical > zoom > > Cameras are a big area of focus for this year’s iPhone 17 Pro line. > > To start, 17 Pro’s front camera is a new Center Stage 18MP lens, up from > the 12MP selfie camera on 16 Pro. > > The Center Stage camera has a square sensor, enabling you to capture > photos in portrait or landscape while still holding the iPhone vertically. > Additionally, > > AI enables the camera to automatically expand its field of view when it > detects more people entering the frame. > > On the back of the iPhone 17 Pro is an array of three 48MP Fusion cameras: > Main, Ultra Wide, and Telephoto. > > Previously, only the Main camera carried the ‘Fusion’ billing. > > The biggest changes are to the 48MP Telephoto lens, which is upgraded from > 12MP in the 16 Pro and has a tetraprism design with a much larger sensor > than > > before. > > Telephoto now offers 4x and 8x optical zoom options, replacing the 5x zoom > on 16 Pro. You can also digitially zoom up to 40x. > > Video features new to iPhone 17 Pro include: > > list of 3 items > > • ProRes RAW support > > • Log 2 support > > • Genlock > > list end > > Videographers will be able to “precisely synchronize video across multiple > cameras and inputs.” > > Finally, Dual Capture enables you to record video simultaneously on the > front and back iPhone 17 Pro cameras. > > Design and colors: Rear ‘plateau,’ aluminum, but no black > > iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max include a new aluminum design, replacing > titanium from the 16 Pro. And the rear camera bump has made way for a > camera ‘plateau’ > > that’s full-width. > > Here’s how Apple describes the 17 Pro design: > > block quote > > The new brushed aluminum unibody design is crafted with a lightweight > aerospace-grade 7000-series aluminum alloy to deliver the best-ever thermal > performance > > in an iPhone. On the back, the plateau creates additional space for > internal components — making room for a larger battery. The antennas are > integrated > > around the perimeter for the highest-performing antenna system ever in an > iPhone. > > block quote end > > Colors might prove the most controversial change of Apple’s Pro line. > > iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max come in just three colors: > > list of 3 items > > • Cosmic Orange > > • Deep Blue > > • Silver > > list end > > Pro users have long wanted more “fun” color options, and Apple definitely > delivered on that front this year. > > However, where things get controversial is in what’s missing: there’s no > Black or Space Gray finish this year. No Gold or ‘Desert’ option is > available > > either. > > If you’re the type of iPhone Pro user who always buys a black model, > Apple’s best option for you this year might be > > the iPhone Air. > > Battery life: Reaching higher heights than ever > > Battery life > > Apple has made significant gains in battery life this year. It’s given the > smaller iPhone 17 Pro even better battery than last year’s large Pro Max > model, > > while the 17 Pro Max hits even higher heights. > > Here’s how Apple says battery compares on the smaller Pro: > > list of 2 items > > • iPhone 17 Pro: Up to 33 hours video playback, or 30 hours streamed > > • iPhone 16 Pro: Up to 27 hours video playback, or 22 hours streamed > > list end > > And here’s the Pro Max: > > list of 2 items > > • iPhone 17 Pro Max: Up to 39 hours video playback, or 35 hours streamed > > • iPhone 16 Pro Max: Up to 33 hours video playback, or 29 hours streamed > > list end > > Storage and pricing: Surprisingly good news > > Apple has big storage changes coming to this year’s iPhone 17 lineup. > > All iPhone 17 models, including the Pro and Pro Max, now start at 256GB of > storage. > > With iPhone 16 Pro, the smaller model started at 128GB while only the Pro > Max started at 256GB. > > Also new this year: iPhone 17 Pro Max offers the first-ever 2TB storage > option. > > On the pricing front, despite persistent rumors of price hikes, Apple’s > new Pro models have good news. > > list of 2 items > > • iPhone 17 Pro starts at $1,099: this is technically a $100 increase over > iPhone 16 Pro, but with the higher starting storage, it’s actually the same > > cost as a 256GB 16 Pro > > • iPhone 17 Pro Max starts at $1,199: exactly the same price as the iPhone > 16 Pro Max > > list end > > If you want to upgrade storage, the 17 Pro Max will cost you $1,399 for > 512GB, $1,599 for 1TB, and a whopping $1,999 for 2TB. iPhone 17 Pro has > similar > > $200 bumps for 512GB and 1TB, but there’s no 2TB option. > > iPhone 17 Pro vs iPhone 16 Pro: wrap-up > > Overall, the iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max offer a lot of changes and > improvements over the 16 Pro. > > Big upgrades to cameras and battery life provide users some of the most > requested feature upgrades, and the performance boosts seem like they might > be > > significant. > > Then again, the iPhone 17 Pro’s new aluminum unibody design might prove > controversial, and the lack of Black or Space Gray finish might be too. > > Do you plan to upgrade from iPhone 16 Pro to 17 Pro? 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