Mary, Nicely put! We are walking into something with our eyes wide open and smiling it reminds me of many science fiction horror novels… All the best Sandy and Mr Z
Sent from The dark side of the moon > On Oct 6, 2026, at 1:48 a.m., Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: > > Unlike Gemini, Apple is it stealing every little bit of data that you give > it. Google and Meta and all these other we don’t give a crap about privacy > organizations are evil. Even if it’s not quite as convenient, don’t sell your > life to those mothers. The They will use it and they will use you for > whatever they can. But just ignore them > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 5, 2026, at 5:33 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You know, when I first saw this thread, I thought to myself, yes, I agree. >> >> For me, the problem is that I use Gemini for almost everything. Unlike >> Siri, Gemini was built in a multimodal framework. This means that Gemini >> can process both audio and visual input, simotaneously. >> >> So, with Gemini, I can point my phone at a piece of paper and say to Gemini, >> "What does this say?" or "Read the major points of this document," and >> Gemini will do so, instantly. >> >> Even in iOS 27, Siri cannot do this. As you all know, in IOS, one has to >> initiate some kind of command and then have VoiceOver detect and read what >> it thinks it sees. Then, unlike Gemini, you cannot ask follow-up questions >> without having to either repeat a wake-up word or pressing a button. So >> disappointing given that Apple says that Siri is built on Gemini language >> models. >> >> Using Siri feels like work, to me. Using Gemini is like having a real >> sighted assistant next to me, all the time. >> >> Just my thoughts, of course. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Carolyn Arnold >> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2026 10:00 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: I feel my phone has gotten dumb! >> >> Instead of using Siri, I double tap the Dictate Button at the bottom right >> and have been satisfied with the performance. >> >> Carolyn Arnold >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2026 1:17 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: I feel my phone has gotten dumb! >> >> Hi Ed, I am afraid the new Siri is rather young and it may not respond well >> to the confused commands from guys like you who are well over 100 years old. >> Joking aside, I sometimes find it annoying how Siri usually confirms with me >> to call somebody when in iOS 26 it would simply do so and that is even with >> contacts where their mobile number is the only one that is saved. >> One other thing I noticed is that quite often when I want to send a text to >> somebody, for example let's assume I want to send a text to "Cory", I will >> say "Hey Siri, text Cory" and I immediately follow with "Hello Cory" and >> then before I can even say more, Siri says "Sending "Hello cory" or >> something like that. Usually if I say "Edit" and then start over I can >> continue to speak beyond "Hello cory", but tonight I sent a few messages and >> it did this everytime. I start by >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2026 6:46 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: I feel my phone has gotten dumb! >> >> The new Siri will be in beta for probally a long time. >> But, it is widely available if you have a phone that has Apple Intelligence. >> On my 18 pro, I am not noticing it being slow. >> I have not called mmany people with it yet however. >> >> Richard, USA >> "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape >> finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." >> - Marcus Aurelius >> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> (sent from my iPhone 18 Pro >> >>>> On Oct 4, 2026, at 6:24 PM, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Richard, >>> I have had it since it came out. I looked in settings, under Siri and it >>> says Beta. >>> There are still some glitches with it. Like when I send or call my son on >>> his mobile phone. I tell Siri to call him on the mobile and it does not >>> repeat back calling him on mobile as did the old Siri. When I tell Siri to >>> call my son to text him on mobile it does the text but does not tell me if >>> it using mobile or work. So it has sent some of the text to his work phone >>> even though I told it to call his mobile phone. It's also slower at calling >>> other people when as to do so. >>> >>> Mr. Ed >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2026 6:13 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: I feel my phone has gotten dumb! >>> >>> How long have you been on iOS 27? Does it still show optimizing search in >>> Siri in the settings? I didn't notice it being that much slower than iOS >>> 26, and certainly not any slower than the Alexa app, but it's you know it's >>> hard to say not knowing your Wi-Fi speeds and all those things. >>> On my 18 pro, things are working very well Richard, USA "The object of life >>> is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in >>> the ranks of the insane." >>> - Marcus Aurelius >>> >>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>> >>> (sent from my iPhone 18 Pro >>> >>>>> On Oct 3, 2026, at 3:22 PM, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Richard, >>>> The only thing I have notice with the new Siri is it really slow. I have >>>> the 16 pro. It's not as fast as Amazon dot is. It's way slower to chat >>>> with. Takes longer to have it make calls and send text. Is that the case >>>> on your iPhone? Not sure what I need to have turned on that would speed it >>>> up. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mr. Ed >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2026 11:49 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: I feel my phone has gotten dumb! >>>> >>>> I also have the 18 pro running iOS 27.0.1. >>>> I am extremely impressed with the new Siri. If you use a voice command to >>>> start Siri, either hey Siri or just Siri, it is more like other AI apps >>>> where you can respond to Siri saying things like would you like to know >>>> more about this, or that. >>>> Using the new Siri AI app is also very effective. >>>> >>>> The speed of the new phone is very impressive. >>>> >>>> Dictation is better than it ever has been for me. >>>> >>>> Do you have all the settings for Siri turned on? >>>> >>>> Have you rebooted the phone after the initial update? >>>> >>>> I can understand the dictation errors if you are speaking quickly... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard, USA >>>> Jaws version: 2026.2608.25 (Script Revision: 2) Windows Version: 26H2 >>>> (OS Build 26300.9457) >>>> >>>> “Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.” >>>> -- Terry Pratchett, Hogfather, P. 172. >>>> >>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>> Of Terri Stimmel >>>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2026 9:34 AM >>>> To: Viphone <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: I feel my phone has gotten dumb! >>>> >>>> Hello everyone. >>>> >>>> I hope you all are doing well. I am writing really just to complain about >>>> some things. But also, to see if anyone else is having similar experiences. >>>> >>>> I have the 18 pro, running the latest iOS version. Fi First of all, I am >>>> not really impressed with iOS 27. I don't see how there were that many >>>> changes. Maybe someone else has noticed more than I have, though? >>>> >>>> What are some things you all like about iOS 27? >>>> What are some changes I might be able to make, to find some improvements? >>>> >>>> Also, I have the new Siri, and I don't think it's much better. It seems >>>> like a pain to me. But maybe I am not using it correctly? >>>> >>>> My biggest complaint, though, is when I use dictation to try and write >>>> messages and such. I don't do this in public, mainly when I am at home. >>>> I've noticed that sometimes my words are changed up when I dictate >>>> something. For example, instead of writing phone, it will write the word >>>> bone. Earlier, I was trying to say the word Judaism, and it wrote judo. >>>> Then when I tried to fix it, it wrote Buddhism. I know I talk clearly >>>> enough. So I'm not sure why these sorts of things keep happening. These >>>> are just a few examples. There are more. This used to happen sometimes. >>>> But now it seems to be happening more often. >>>> What could be causing this? >>>> >>>> Any thoughts, or suggestions for me would be very much appreciated. And I >>>> would love to hear some positive experiences with the upgrade. 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