Well, I think Pablo has the right to complain. He shelled out big bucks for a smart phone, and I think that gives him the right to set his expectations pretty high. It's complaints like this that will keep Apple from getting complacent.
Every time a new product is released, there will be tons of complaints and bugs. I doubt Apple is any worse at this than anyone else. The number of bugs is also going to be directly proportional to the number of features and the complexity of the system. The trick for Apple and what users need to decide before jumping ship is how serious are these problems. Are they annoyances? Do they have workarounds? Are they being addressed? I might look at a mailing list like this before switching to a new product, like an iPhone, but once I owned a product, I'd focus on how I use the phone and the problems I was running into. I wouldn't base my view of a product quality on what I read on a list like this. For example, I see a lot of the same problems get reported over and over again, such as the issue with volume on a call, the speaker not always engaging when you take the phone away from your face, not being able to label objects any more and so on. This is a reasonably small list of unique issues, although you see a lot of list traffic over them as different people run into them for the first time. Many of them also have workarounds, and not all of them effect every person. How important these issues are, and how they effect your view of the quality of the phone, is subjective. On 19/12/12 17:00, Pablo Morales wrote: > Daniel, Sieghard, and all. > I will not continue with this issue. I understand that you don't like a > lister that is writing things about a device that you might like so > much. I like it also, I love my iPhone so much. because of that I am so > upset with the issues that IOs 6.x is giving for the users. Why I am > making complain? > Well, if I make complain is not for my benefit, is for the benefit of > all of us, and even apple too. Switch to another bran will not return > the accessibility that I had with iPhone now, and when it was much > better, before with IOs 6, , and it will not return back the money that > I pay for a unlocked phone, an unlocked iPhone. I had a phone working > almost perfectly when I had IOs 5.x, just a few things to say about > little things, but now with IOs 6, I have so much accessiblity problems > and other problems related with different things. You say, switch to > another phone, another bran. Why? if I had my iPhone working really good > with my IOs 5? > The problems appeared with the IOs 6, and in IOs 6.1 anything changed. > How many updates we need to wait until our iPhones would be working > fine, like with IOs 5? Also, if we get happy with this situations, at > any time, the next update will bring more bugs or mistakes, and what is > the action to do? > wait until the next update? > We could be like this the rest of our life. waiting and updating our > iDevices. > How ever, if you like this kind of things, I don't, and if I am making > complain and trying to make pressure showing the bad things of this last > updates, is not for my benefit, is for the benefit of all, even you > daniel, you Sieghard, and Cris. > I do not make money, or I don't receive anything in return doing this > kind of things, just I try to make pressure to improve a product that is > very usable for all blind people on the world. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Miller" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:59 PM > Subject: RE: ios 6.02 released: > > >> Like he said, if you don't like it, switch to another product. I'm just >> pretty sure all of us can guarantee you that you won't have the same >> level >> of accessibility, or ease of use if you did decide to switch. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf >> Of Pablo Morales >> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:58 PM >> To: viphone >> Subject: Re: ios 6.02 released: >> >> Sieghard> >> I don't think that I have used that kind of vocabulary, even though I >> understand that you could feel affected due my words. Normally I am >> someone >> that allways make complain for any reason that think is no fair. If we >> have >> a product that is a very high quality, and very expensive, we want in >> return >> something according with the money payed and reputation of that >> product. If >> I want a cheaper thing, may I buy a nokia or another kind of phone, >> and that >> is it. even though If i do complain is I read no few, I read many people >> getting problems about this last update. Is not only me, I am only who is >> making noise, but not the only one with problems with VO or another >> issues. >> Let me repeat it again. Is not fair that apple having a very nice screen >> reader for touch phones or touch devices, or for devices, make in the >> last >> updates, this kind of mistakes. I understand it in the first IOs, but in >> the IOs 6, when they have enough experience and knowledge about those >> devices and VO? >> It is not fair. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> > -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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