I'm definitely not saying that it can't be improved and that there aren't 
possibilities; I'm just saying that you do have more obvious and mathematically 
speaking more numerrous combinations with a fairly full keyboard of some kind 
than with some of the braille displays with few keys. But on the other hand, 
most people don't use standard keyboards by pressing combinations of letter 
keys at once and also there can be advantages to having fewer keys to keep 
track of and manipulate. So there are lots of considerations both ways here.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 30, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> There are a lot of possibilities on a brailledisplays with braille keys, also 
> on a braille display only with navigation keys, if apple may allow to use 
> more keys at a time.
> 
> In my opinion there are missing some devellopement here gennerely and in this 
> app speciffic.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:46 PM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I think we have to realize it can be challenging to be able to do 
>> everything with a device having eight keys and a joystick, like my 
>> refreshabraille, vs a bluetooth keyboard with a lot more keys.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mary.
>>> 
>>> I agree with you.
>>> 
>>> Apple is also making differences for keyboard users and braille users, 
>>> there are a great number of shortcuts you can not make with a braille 
>>> display, which you can make with a keyboard. It is in my opinion really 
>>> annoying.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Maybe there has been some problems with making the same possibilities for 
>>> braille users because of the differences in keybords and braille displays 
>>> behaviour.
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie.
>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Another comment on AccessNote, owners of the original iPad can't use the 
>>>> app, which requires ios6. Now what, I wonder, is so special about this app 
>>>> that it requires ios6? Interestingly, the description in the app store 
>>>> gives no hint that the braille user's experience with respect to the 
>>>> features of the app is not going to be equal to that of a speech user with 
>>>> a bluetooth keyboard. For a blindness org to put out an app that does not 
>>>> allow for equal experiences for braille users ought to be unacceptable 
>>>> IMHO. Kind of like NFB and the first version of BLIO. It sounds like a 
>>>> good app. I hope they update it quickly to provide an equal experience for 
>>>> braille users and speech users. 
>>>> 
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 
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