Hello, at the risk of a me-too-ish message. I do the same as you, David. I find that teaching basic gestures, regardless of the usage of lack there of a keyboard, are part of the building blocks of becoming a good Voice Over user. This is like the analogy of teaching a man how to fish.

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On 2/28/2013 5:34 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
One of the differences between yours and my approach is I require my
students to acquire a basic fluency with gestures, whether or not they
are planning to use a keyboard. This way, they won't get stuck if the
keyboard doesn't function for some reason. Given that my research is
pointing toward the conclusion that buttons on portable devices are
disappearing at a chartable and seemingly predictable rate, this in my
opinion, is a necessary bit of training. Next year, my research will
officially focus on developing best understanding and practice around
how to train blind people to use touch screens with audible, rather than
haptic, responses.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 01/03/2013, at 12:12, erik burggraaf <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Well, When I teach it, I usually start out by opening the practice
area and having the student practice various gestures or keyboard and
braille display commands depending on how they plan to use the phone.
 The practice area is conveniently located in settings, general,
accessibility, voiceover, voiceover practice.

Then I arrange the screen for the user so that the apps they want to
start using right away are in the most convenient location on the
screen for their individual needs.

Then I start with the apps that are most interesting to each
individual user.  It really is all a matter of personal taste.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2013-02-27, at 5:27 PM, "Karen Hughes" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

erik, as a newbie how do i begin with this apple five i phone stuff.
thanks, karen

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    *Subject:*Re: Accessible-iOS preventing locking it iBooks

    If you haven't used the app store before, there's actually a link
    to download IBooks right from the first screen when the store opens.

    Bood luck,

    Erik Burggraaf
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    On 2013-02-25, at 11:39 PM, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi,

    you download it from the app store.  Its free.

    Ricardo Walker
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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    www.appletothecore.info <http://www.appletothecore.info>

    On Feb 25, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Karen Hughes <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Erik, how does one get I books, thanks, Karen

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    Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:49 PM
    Subject: Re: Accessible-iOS preventing locking it iBooks

    Absolutely, although the selection of books from the ibooks
    store might not be the same as it is in the US.

    Best,

    Erik Burggraaf
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    On 2013-02-25, at 2:59 PM, "Karen Hughes" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    is it possible to get I books if you live in Canada.  thanks,
    Karen

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    Subject: Re: Accessible-iOS preventing locking it iBooks


    Hi,

    How interesting.  I never had this problem when continuously
    reading in iBooks.  I guess you could turn auto lock off in
    settings/general.

    hth

    Ricardo Walker
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    On Feb 25, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Negoslav Sabev <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi listers,

    Don't know if you have this problem, but while reading in
    iBooks my screen tells me that is dimmed in under a minute
    and it stops VO from reading. It is very annoying. So how to
    prevent locking? Leaving my phone unlocked or setting it
    every time I am reading in the public transport is not an option.

    Negoslav
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