Hello List,

I have had similar occurances in obtaining the correct answer to a particular 
question. I used to use VizWiz all the time, but now I have other options. The 
issue I have been having recently is that it takes a tremendous amount of time 
to get a response from a web worker. I try to send a request when it would not 
be so busy, but it really doesn't matter what time of the day I use the app. 
It's ashame because when you don't have sighted assistance, it's nice to have a 
backup.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:19 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Scott and others. I agree that it would be a wonderful addition to the 
> feature set if you are able to type out your question rather than record it. 
> Sometimes people can phrase a question differently this way. Also, there is 
> no guarantee that the web worker listening to your recorded question is a 
> native speaker in whichever language you speak. So if you write it down, even 
> if they have to use a translation software, it might get your question better 
> answer. In my particular case, they did give me answers that were related to 
> the picture of the thermostat, but it is like they did not listen to my 
> actual question in trying to find out which setting was for the heater or the 
> air conditioner. On a funny note, had they mentioned chicken or some other 
> food item, it would have given me an idea of what to order for dinner. :-)
> 
> On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Scott Davert <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all.
>> Yes, Web Workers were enabled on my device, but that's a good
>> question. (smiles).
>> As for the developers, I've contacted them a couple of times, once
>> after my article was published in 2011 about their app. I have
>> contacted the m previously about this particular issue, and they said
>> they were aware of it. However, I'm not sure there is much they can
>> do. This stuff is done on a voluntary basis, right? If so, as the old
>> saying goes, beggars can't be choosers. I'll give the app another try
>> when I have a complicated visual delemma that can be solved through
>> things like this and see what happens.
>> One of the features I contacted the developers about was the ability
>> to type my question instead of having to record an audio file. They
>> said they were going to include that in the next release, but some
>> complication or other must have gotten in the way of that, as this was
>> 16 months ago.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 3/8/13, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Actually though, with Raul's experience, one answer was 71, which could have
>>> been the temperature the thermostat was set to. Also, one answer was just
>>> thermostat.
>>> 
>>> So these are actually quite in-line but just not showing awareness of the
>>> audio question he sent along…
>>> 
>>> If they had said fried chicken, now that would have been something else!
>>> lol!
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your note!…
>>> 
>>> Smiles,
>>> 
>>> Cara :)
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>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Grant Hardy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I've received lots of responses from web workers that range from
>>> comical to bizarre, some of which clearly belong to a different
>>> customer's photo. For example, I've received, from a web worker, the
>>> description "fried chicken on a table" when I was nowhere near a
>>> kitchen or a table or any food whatsoever, lol. I've also seen lots of
>>> other people on list reporting equally strange answers, case and
>>> point, Raul's recent experience.
>>> 
>>> Cheers.
>>> 
>>> Grant
>>> 
>>> On 3/7/13, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> If you're using the web workers, it sure sounds like they're not actually
>>>> listening to the question but just writing something as soon as the
>>>> picture
>>>> comes up.
>>>> 
>>>> These experiences would be worth sharing with the app developers /
>>>> sponsors.
>>>> 
>>>> Smiles,
>>>> 
>>>> Cara :)
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>>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:10 AM, Scott Davert <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As of a few months ago when I last tried VizWiz, it was not helpful. I
>>>> took a picture of a medicine bottle that was either Adville or Adville
>>>> PM. Big difference in the morning when you don't want to sleep your
>>>> day away. Anyway, I asked VizWiz whether the bottle was Adville or
>>>> Adville PM, and got responses like: white pill bottle, medicine, and
>>>> bottle. Not very helpful. Perhaps it's worth another try? I'm really
>>>> not sure.
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/6/13, Raul A. Gallegos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi there. I am replying very late on this thread, but I am still going
>>>>> through several messages which I had For later replying to. I can of
>>>>> course
>>>>> have one of the hotel staff members show me everything in the room.
>>>>> However
>>>>> that was not the point of my message. I merely wanted to use an app to
>>>>> see
>>>>> how well it would work identify what I was looking for. I travel quite
>>>>> frequently and so am aware of the layout of most hotel rooms. Also in
>>>>> regards to the thermostat, I knew that it was a 50/50 hit or miss on
>>>>> whether
>>>>> I turned on the AC or the heater. So mostly it was a point of curiosity
>>>>> with
>>>>> the app.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 1:06 PM, "Dulce Weisenborn"
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In future, have the staff show you to your room, orient you to the
>>>>>> thermostat, TV remote control, outlets, regular vs. decaf coffee, and
>>>>>> shampoo vs. conditionervs. lotion.  It only takes a few minutes, and
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are happy to do so.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:43 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: VizWiz?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, in my recent stay in Austin I was in a hotel and needed to find out
>>>>>> which button setting would put the thermostat to the air conditioning.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> knew I had a 50/50 outcome possible since the button was a 3 position
>>>>>> button. Middle being off, and left being AC and right being heater.
>>>>>> However I didn't know that at the time. I used Vizwiz to ask the
>>>>>> question, which setting is for the air conditioner. Left or right. The
>>>>>> first time I got the response that I was too far from the thermostat.
>>>>>> So
>>>>>> I took a closer picture, and eventually I got 5 responses. However all
>>>>>> of them were dead wrong. The responses ranged from white, to 71, to
>>>>>> thermostat. None of which actually answered my question. So I gave it
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> as a bad job and flipped the switch to the left, since on mine at home,
>>>>>> left is AC, and sure enough, I gambled right.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> I am a master of my own bladder. - Sheldon Cooper
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/28/2013 11:09 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Nimit,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It all depends on the question you record along with your picture. If,
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> example, I send a picture of the LCD screen of my thermostat via
>>>>>>> VizWiz
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> do not record a question like "What is the temperature shown on this
>>>>>>> thermostat display"? I may not get an answer or maybe I get an answer
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> "LCD screen with numbers".
>>>>>>> The advantage of VizWiz is that you can send a picture to a web worker
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> ask a very specific question regarding the picture. I haven't used Tap
>>>>>>> Tap
>>>>>>> See, but I don't recall reading that you can send a question along
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> picture, can you?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Nimit Kaur
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:48 PM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: VizWiz?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I heard there are people who work for it and answer question of the
>>>>>>> picture you send unless it's computorized already?  Maybe your picture
>>>>>>> wasn't so common and the person took a while to get to you?  Just a
>>>>>>> guesss.  I have tried wiz-wiz and I am really confused.  Thanks!
>>>>>>> The descriptions sometimes don't help me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/27/13, Patrick Neazer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello Debbie:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am sorry that you got such a slow response from vizwiz. that is not
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> norm. Try switching on IQ engine and see if you get a better
>>>>>>>> response.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> a fan of both Tap Tap See and vizwiz. Having options never hurts :).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Let us know if switching on IQ engines works for you if you try it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Debbie Downey
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Patrick,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I finally got an answer but it sure was slow. I was using the
>>>>>>>>> Web
>>>>>>>>> Worker option.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think I may stick with TapTap See!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>> Of Patrick Neazer
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:09 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: VizWiz?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello Debbie:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Vizwiz is working here. Remember to take the picture, make the
>>>>>> recording,
>>>>>>>>> stop the recording, press send and wait for a few seconds.
>>>>>>>>> sometimes,
>>>>>>>>> depending upon the picture, it might take a few minutes to receive a
>>>>>>>>> response. It took about 7 minutes for me to receive a response to a
>>>>>>>>> picture of a can I took on Saturday.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I also have IQ engines checked.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please let us know if that information proves useful to you.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Debbie Downey
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if the VizWiz app is still working? Frankly I've
>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>> used it and just tried it for the first time but can't get it to
>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>> comes back with an answers heading but there are no answers and it
>>>>>> tells
>>>>>>>>>> me to start over. I tried using the Web Workers.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
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