If memory serves, only the 5 can be used on either network. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone
On 30/03/2013, at 8:57, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Keith, > > I am not 100% sure on that, but I think if you had an unlocked iPhone 4S > that was on CDMA service with Verizon or Sprint you could actually use a SIM > Card in it, the 4S I believe was a true world phone capable of both CDMA and > GSM. But as I said, I might be wrong on that and maybe somebody like Aman > who knows more about this could answer it, maybe also Raul or David or > Jonathan from New Zealand. I do remember hearing something on the Today in > iOS Podcast when the iPhone 5 came out that the 4S was a better phone if you > are travelling a lot. Anyhow, I think Verizon's LTE service uses a SIM as > well, doesn't it? CDMA really is not a standard that exists in too many > places outside of the US, maybe there is a carrier in Japan and China, but > most of Asia, all of Europe and Australia and I think also most of South > America and Africa uses GSM. > > It's so ridiculous anyways, I think slowly there is some convergence but > there still are so many standards out there. Wouldn't it be nice if every > carrier in the world used the same standard and agreements were in place for > either no roaming or super cheap roaming fees? I wonder where we are in that > respect in 10 or 15 years. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 12:41 PM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: RE: rumor or not? > > Sieghard, > > I appreciate this explanation very much. > > Can you explain how the CDMA and GSM chips issue affect this? In the States, > I am on Verizon (which I understand is CDMA), but I don't believe I can use > A T &T or Sprint or T-Mobile (which I believe are GSM). So, even if I have > Verizon unlock my phone, I'm still limited to Verizon (as I understand it), > which would only benefit me by getting out from under a 2-ear contract when > that expires. > > Am I way off here? I'd appreciate any clarification. > > Thanks. Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 2:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: rumor or not? > > Hi Pablo, > > There is absolutely no advantage to buying an unlocked phone unless you > plan to travel to other countries where you might want to temporarily remove > your carrier's SIM card and insert one from a carrier in the country you > are visiting. There may also be an advantage to buying an unlocked phone at > full price from Apple direct if you don't want to commit to a 2-year > contract or if you plan to maybe use your phone for a year or so with one > carrier and then to switch to a different carrier. If you have bought an > unlocked phone at full price from Apple you can walk into any carrier's > store, buy a SIM Card and activate the phone on whichever service they offer > without any commitment. > > I have an unlocked 4S and when I bought it I was with Telus here in Canada > which is one of the big 3 carriers. About a year later I decided to switch > to Koodo which works on the Telus network and the company is even owned by > Telus, but operates like an MVNO. I was able to do this simply by going to a > Koodo booth which exist in most major malls in the larger cities and I just > picked a plan, they offered me a free SIM card and after I signed the > paperwork for my new month-to-month plan with no long term contract I was > done. Inside of 20 minutes I had service from my new provider. > > As another example, I am going to Thailand in 2 weeks on holidays. I already > found out online that most of the major providers there have 24-hour stores > right at the airport because tourism is such a big industry there. I will go > to one of these providers, buy a SIM card for $2 or $3 and a package which > will give me unlimited data and some SMS and talk time and once again all I > have to do is take my Koodo SIM Card out and put in the SIM from the Thai > carrier. When I get back home I reverse the process and I'm back on my > normal carrier's network. > > However, at least here in Canada most carriers will even unlock your > subsidized phone nowadays after as little as 30 days so that makes buying a > phone at full price even less attractive. As long as I don't have to put in > a different SIM a week after I buy it, I could buy a phone on contract for a > reduced price, then after 30 days I call my carrier and tell them that I am > going to travel for a few weeks and want my phone unlocked. They do so and I > can put in a SIM in another country, then put in my carrier's SIM when I get > back. The only thing I can't do with this scenario unless I am willing to > pay the cancellation penalty is to cancel my contract and go to another > carrier. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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