Hi Susan:

Here are the links for  vo Starter and LookTel VoiceOver Tutorials

VO Starter 
by Michael Doise
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vo-starter/id586844936?mt=8


LookTel VoiceOver Tutorial by IPPLEX
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/looktel-voiceover-tutorial/id598788231?mt=8

Hope this helps someone.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Susan
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: gesture helper?

Are you familiar with the app "VO Starter"?

On 4/11/13, Dan Beaver GMail <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Since this gesture was suggested I have been using it and find it very 
> nice.
>
> One thing I have found that might help you is that your fingers do not 
> need
>
> to be perfectly ligned up across the screen.  As long as they are on 
> the top
>
> half of the screen they can be somewhat diagonal.
>
> Dan Beaver
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Alan Paganelli" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:42 AM
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: gesture helper?
>
> I have trouble with the 4 finger double tap near the top to go to the 
> top of a list or a 4 finger double tap near the bottom of the screen 
> to go to the bottom of a list.  It is useful say when you've got a 
> list of 250 email messages which are desplayed newest first.  I like 
> to read the oldest first because it makes it easier to follow the 
> thread which is probably why Apple did it that way because with the 
> gesture you can quickly go either way.  I understand though why Apple 
> did it that way.  Most people don't sit around on their ass all day on 
> emailing lists! LOL!  Most people are waiting for a reply or a new 
> message etc so I get it but I'm usually holding my iPhone going from 
> top to bottom because it's easier to hold it that way and I can't 
> always get all 4 fingers on the damn screen and I've not managed it 
> yet and yet everybody insists it works.  Maybe I should try it with 
> the screen sideways. Please let me know if it works for you or maybe 
> I'm doing it wrong.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lisa belville" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: gesture helper?
>
>
>> Dan and all,
>>
>> try this site:
>> http://axslab.com/articles/ios-voiceover-gestures-and-keyboard-comman
>> ds.php
>>
>> It lists gestures in a table and also sorts by the various number of 
>> taps and fingers and the numerous combinations thereof.
>>
>> The voice Over help was helpful for me and I still use it, but I'm 
>> not familiar enough with the phone to know how many fingers and taps 
>> do what in what combination, and some of these combos are things I 
>> never would have thought of  because I still don't know about all of 
>> the possible combinations and how to make them or even which gestures 
>> are actually available.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>> I've Got A Mind Like A Steel Trap - Rusty and Illegal In 37 States.
>> Lisa Belville
>> [email protected]
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dan Beaver GMail" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:42 PM
>> Subject: gesture helper?
>>
>>
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> I am learning more and more gestures that I was not aware of.  It is 
>>> great to learn of them on this list.
>>>
>>> My question is this, is there a place where you can find a listing 
>>> of the different gestures that are available for the IPhone?
>>>
>>> I have read through the documentation on-line but have not found 
>>> such a list.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Dan Beaver
>>>
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