I think the answer to your question is that a person would want to do lots of research to give a demo. I have done just that. Many podcasts and much research later, I think I know a few things. There are also things I do not know, and this thread is one example. I think part of learning is being able to admit that you don't know something. That's how one learns. So this list is only a fraction of the things I discover about the iPhone I have. But, I do believe this list is a valuable resource no matter how much you know. That's because it is a two way exchange of ideas. So I will continue to research and ask questions both on this list and in other ways. I will also continue to share my knowledge.
Thanks to all who shared their knowledge on this subject with me and who continue to share with others in a kind way. Neal -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lauren Simmons Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Tat Tap See A better way of researching a question is by compiling a pool of go-to resources and you will not have to ask the list at all. This will probably eliminate many, many of the questions asked here on almost a weekly cycle. Luckily for IOS there's lots of information out there. Also, if you are going to give a presentation on the iPhone, why would you not want to conduct lots of research whether podcast or otherwise. Who knows what else you may not know or not even know to consider in regards to other apps or features you will be presenting. In other words, though you may not like it, information of all kinds is always great information. LS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Ewers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:29 PM Subject: RE: Tat Tap See > Hi Dmitriy, I am sorry I miss-spoke about not using crowd sourcing, and I > am > very glad to have the correct information. It would appear that lots of > people still feel they need to tell me that I should listen to a podcast > Alan informed me of hours ago. Thanks to Alan, and Jonathan for the help, > and thanks to other assorted people. One way to cut down on traffic on > this > list is to discover that a question has already been answered multiple > times > and to not assume that the questioner needs to be reminded over and over > again. Believe me, it's not that I mind being wrong, I just see wasted > resources when the same question has to be answered multiple times. > > > > I do have one question for you. > > > > What causes the sending of an image to time out? Is it that the image is > unrecognizable, or is it that the image never arrives at the destination. > > > > Thanks for your answer. I will be much wiser now in explaining how this > app > works when I do my demo of numerous apps. > > > > Thanks again for writing and for making this amazing app available. > > > > Neal > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Dmitriy > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:23 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Tat Tap See > > > > Hello Neal, > > > > TapTapSee does in fact use a combination of a database algorithm and human > crowdsourcing. The image is first sent out to our database, if it is not > able to recognize it then it is sent out to crowdsourcing. > > > > TapTapSee, as mentioned, can take up to five images at a time and will > identify them in order they are received. The images then get deleted, > they > are not stored on the user's device. Therefore, there's no need to look > for > a clear button. The repeat button helps a user repeat the last identified > result, in case it was missed. The app takes a few seconds to identify an > image. Thus, once an picture is taken, the user should wait a moment for > it > to be recognized and for the identification to be read back to the user. > > > > I hope the answers I provided help with some of the questions in this > thread. Please feel free to ask anything else that you'd like > clarification > on. > > > > NOTE: My name is Dmitriy and I work for the company that has created > TapTapSee. You can always ask us questions via Twitter, @TapTapSee > <http://Twitter.com/TapTapSee> or by sending us an email to > Contact[at]TapTapSeeApp[dot]com. > > > > Best Regards, > > Dmitriy > > On Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:08:50 AM UTC-7, Neal Ewers wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, I knew VizWiz did ask a human, but I didn't know that tap tap > see did. According to RNIB, "It compares your photo with a large database > online to work out what it is." > > I can find nothing about this using a human. I know VizWiz does because > you > actually send your request to a real person. Can you give me a source for > how Tap Tap See uses human intervention? I ask because I am doing a > presentation on iPhone apps in a few days and I don't want to give them my > incorrect information if it needs to be corrected. > > > > Thanks much. > > > > Have a nice day down under. > > > > Neal > > > > > > > > From: <javascript:> [email protected] [mailto: <javascript:> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:16 AM > To: <javascript:> [email protected] > Subject: Re: Tat Tap See > > > > Hi Neal, TapTapSee employs two techniques. It uses an object recognition > database first. If it can't get a result, then it will try crowd sourcing, > that is to say, asking a human. > > > > Jonathan > > On 21/04/2013, at 3:19 PM, Neal Ewers <[email protected] > <javascript:> >> wrote: > > > > Hi Tap Tap see is never routed to a person. > > > > Neal > > > > > > > > From: <javascript:> [email protected] [mailto: <javascript:> > vip...@ > <http://googlegroups.com/> googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Frank > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:15 PM > To: <javascript:> [email protected] > Subject: Re: Tat Tap See > > > > Does anyone know how the Crowd sourcing works with Tap Tap See? Does > taking > too many pictures overload the system? If the system doesn't recognize an > object, is it always routed to a person? If so, I will be much more > judicious on the number of objects I ask TTS to identify. > > Tom Frank > > <javascript:> [email protected] > > > > > > > > On Apr 20, 2013, at 5:45 PM, "Neal Ewers" < <javascript:> > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Patti, This app cycles through 5 pictures which it then deletes. This is > why > you will hear it say something like picture 3 of 5. It gets to 5 and > starts > all over again, so not to worry. > > > > My guess is that there are two issues here. One, you may not have held the > camera in the right place or maybe too close or to far away. Second, it > will > definitely depend on the light the camera sees. I can have it look at the > same object in different times of day and it will say slightly different > things. It does time out if it cannot see the picture or if it doesn't > know > what it is. I would suggest practicing with this in your home where you > know > various objects are located and see if you can come up with some > strategies > of working with the camera. This might help you when you are in other > locations. > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > Neal > > > > From: <javascript:> [email protected] [mailto: <javascript:> > vip...@ > <http://googlegroups.com/> googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfPatti Johnson > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:50 PM > To: <javascript:> [email protected] > Subject: Tat Tap See > > > > Hey yall. I went to the store today with a friend and while she was off > looking for something else, I got out my phone and opened up the Tap Tap > See > app to see what happened with it. > > I was in the pet aisle because I had just got a bag of cat litter. > > so, I opened up the app and it said when I took the first picture, that it > was showing a bag of Meow Mix cat food. > > "Cool" I thought, so I tried it again, and none of the other pictures I > took > worked. 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