Did you flick faster the second time round? I find that when I am flicking extremely fast, I start making a similar mistake. What I do is sometimes touch rather than flick, thereby completely moving the focus of VO. The next flick, of course, starts VO where I touched the display. Oh, I also become sloppy with my angle. My flick becomes more diagonal. Once 45 degrees is passed, the flick changes from horizontal to vertical, and the rotor setting kicks in. If set to headings, it gets really interesting. If set to things like language, it can get annoying. :-)
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 26/04/2013, at 11:37, "Neal Ewers" <[email protected]> wrote: > David, Thanks and a couple observations. > > This is why I try to explain to new users that they need almost to start > their swiping motion before they touch the screen and end after their finger > is off the screen. It's like an air plane that hits the runway and decides > to take off again. It continues on both ends of the time on the runway. > However, I just noticed something strange. > > I just rebooted my phone. Held down the power button for the time required > and then tapped to turn off. When I went into my contacts, I tried to really > do a good job of swiping just like I said before, and they worked perfectly. > However, when I swiped backwards to the beginning and went through them with > a right swipe again, the letters were no longer in sync with the names. > > I'm guessing that one of your helpful bits of knowledge explains this, but I > don't think I swiped any differently the second time than I did the first > time. It is nice to know, however, that my contacts are OK. It's just me and > the iPhone that may not be in total sync. <smile>. > > Neal > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of David Chittenden > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: An oddity with contacts > > Based on your description, there are a couple things going on. > > First, I need to make an assumption. On a few of the letters in contacts, > there are either no, or very few contacts under the particular letter. The > number would be less than 6 to 10 depending on whether the iPhone is a 5 or > an earlier model. > > To understand what is going on, you need to be aware of how and when the > iPhone activates its interpretation algorithm for VO commands. All tap, > flick, and other movement-based commands are interpreted and activated when > the finger(s) are removed from the display. However, location tracking of > one finger is activated when one finger touches the display and remains > still for about half a second. This is very important, especially when a > person is learning to use the iPhone. What inevitably happens is, the person > wants to do a flick. The person touches the display. The person is thinking > so hard about doing the technique properly that they hesitate for about half > a second to a second (this amount of hesitation is well-known in martial > arts training). The hesitation moves VO focus to the part of the display > where the person happens to be barely touching the display. Before VO > announces the item that is under the person's finger, the person performs > the flick and removes the finger from the display. The new command > interrupts the announcement of the previous command, VO performs the > required action, and the new location is announced. Because VO's focus was > shifted to a different position / item on the screen, the alphabetical > listings announcements are apparently out of order. Yet, when the screen is > checked, everything is where it is supposed to be. If you pay careful > attention, you will actually notice the same thing occurring even when > letters do not change. It is less noticeable in this case because the first > letter is the same, and we find it much more difficult to remember all the > names in a single letter. > > As for the headings, the display shows all letters, and the display is > continuous. If a letter only has one entry, and the next letter also only > has one entry, you can see several heading letters on the display at one > time. If the focused letter is at the top of the display and the hesitation > moves focus to the bottom of the display before the vertical flick is sent, > several letters can be easily skipped. The same is true for the reverse. > > Finally, when horizontally flicking, the VO highlight tends to remain near > the middle of the display. When an item in a list is closed, however, that > item and VO tend to be placed at the top of the display. > > A note about touching. The display is not pressure sensitive. Barely > touching the display is all that is needed. The touch can be so light that > you are not sure you have touched the screen yet. The location timer > activates at this point because the display does not know whether you are > barely touching it or quite firmly touching it. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 26/04/2013, at 10:31, "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello all. The following is a weird problem that one of my clients is > experiencing and I am not sure how to help them. This is all in the contacts > list. From what I can tell the contacts are in alphabetical order the way > the client wants them to be. They are set up to sort by last name, first > name. And display by first name, last name. This is all good. The problem is > if you are flicking to the right and you come across the letter C the next > contacts which are displayed all start with D. Then as you keep flicking to > the right and you eventually get to the letter E, the contacts after that > start with D. I set the rotor to headings and am experiencing weirdness > there as well. As I flaked down I would hear things like a, B, H, E, F, P, > H. So it is as if things are being misread. However if I hear a letter out > of turn, I touch the screen to see what is there and the correct contact for > the letter it is supposed to be is actually displayed. This is telling me > that voiceover is actually speaking different letters in the headings for > the categories but those letters are not correct. So in my example above the > G is missing. Yet if I stop on that missplaced the letter the contacts for G > are actually spoken. I have never seen this happen before and I am not sure > what to do to fix it. At first I thought the client might have been left > flicking instead of right flicking, but that's not the case. >> >> --- >> Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. 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