Hello everybody: I don't usually respond to notes such as this but I am noticing a very disturbing trend on this list when discussions get heated and the moderators have to step in. While I generally support the moderators in breaking up the disputes, some of the tactics being used for doing so only serve to demonstrate or emulate the behaviors that were problematic in the first place. The note below is a good example of this problem. In attempting to raise concerns about behavior that needed to be dealt with where one list member was attacking others, the moderator used this forum to in turn attack the offender.
Rather than proceeding this way, could the moderators consider sending a message like the one below solely to the perceived offender while, at the same time, notifying the rest of the specific infraction, the behavioral standard that is expected and that the matter has been raised directly with the person who breached the behavioral standard? That way, other list members can pattern good behaviors rather than problematic ones in circumstances like this. Thanks for listening. Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-05-08, at 9:16 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote: > Hello Bryan and everyone else. Let's close this thread now. I've already > stated that I don't think Eileen's original message was done wrong, and so > keeping this discussion going is not really doing anything other than taking > up time and inbox space. > > Bryan, someone has already given you the app description which you could have > gotten on your own with the link provided in the original email. So, at least > you have that in case you don't have the skills to follow the link yourself > to get the information. In the future, you might try posting a message which > doesn't come off rude, like what you said to Christopher and to Rick. If you > don't have the skills necessary to follow a link yourself, please say so. If > you just don't have the time, which is what I think you actually said, then > simply erase the message and move on and only read messages from list members > who copy and paste the app description page into their emails. > > Upon reading the thread, you specifically said to Christopher: > > "hi, no, as i don't have time to play with a phone all day and read what 100s > of apps can do." > > That tells me that you have the skills but choose to not invest the time. > Then later to Rick you said: > > "that's the attitude i expected when ignorant perceived power users don't > give a squat about others just getting started with their phone!" > > So, that right there could be taken as you don't have the skills necessary to > look up app information on your own. maybe Rick intimidated you by his honest > approach. I don't know, so I can't assume. What I do know is that you seem to > be the only one having issues with this. And if you are not, then others who > do are not voicing it out loud on the list and wasting everyone's time. > > Thanks, and I hope you had the time to at least read this message. > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > Soft kitty, Warm kitty, Little ball of fur. Happy kitty, Sleepy kitty, Purr, > purr, purr. - Sheldon Cooper > Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 > > On 5/8/2013 8:19 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote: >> hi, >> >> i didn't initially read more because i was just wanting to know why it >> was better than the similar feature already loaded. >> think away >> Bryan Schulz >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda Ingraham" >> <lynda.ingra...@gmail.com> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 7:25 PM >> Subject: RE: Note Master on sale for both the iPhone and iPad >> >> >>> Hi Brian, >>> >>> I think you are being very rude and disrespectful to the list in >>> general and >>> to the individuals who posted the information about Note Master >>> specifically. I have been a member of this list for approximately four >>> years. My experience has been excellent. On more than one occasion >>> when I >>> have had a problem that I just couldn't figure out, people have >>> offered to >>> contact me off list to help. I think if you had expressed your desire to >>> have someone provide you more information in a polite manner, you >>> would have >>> received many more individuals offering assistance. Basically, you >>> told us, >>> your time is valuable and that you don't have time to look up information >>> you are interested in having and that we are all a bunch of power >>> users that >>> don't give a squat about helping new people. Please be honest and ask >>> yourself how interested you would be to respond to a message with this >>> attitude and tone? >>> >>> An excellent resource for reading about apps that are voice over >>> accessible >>> is applevis.com. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Lynda -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Bryan Schulz >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 7:16 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Note Master on sale for both the iPhone and iPad >>> >>> that's the attitude i expected when ignorant perceived power users don't >>> give a squat about others just getting started with their phone! >>> Bryan Schulz >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Alfaro" <rick.alf...@gmail.com> >>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 5:30 PM >>> Subject: Re: Note Master on sale for both the iPhone and iPad >>> >>> >>> totally agree here. the link was included which was enough info. Don't >>> pay any attention to those that talk about courtesy and seem to have >>> none themselves and want others to do the work for them. I appreciated >>> the info and link as well. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rick alfaro >>> >>> On 5/8/2013 1:52 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote: >>>> Eilleen: >>>> Thanks for the info. I had the lite version and updated. I especially >>>> appreciate that you provided the link so that people could look for >>>> themselves at the features of the app rather than having to rely on >>>> others to do it for them. >>>> >>>> On 5/8/13, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Nice description. I downloaded the note master light. How >>>>> different it >>>>> is >>>>> >>>>> from the paid version? just curious. I could not find this info >>>>> online. >>>>> >>>>> Cris >>>>> >>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/JerusalemBoy >>>>> Blog: http://alkarmil.wordpress.com >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Christopher Chaltain >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:33 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Note Master on sale for both the iPhone and iPad >>>>> >>>>> Did you check out it's features in the App Store? Sure Eileen could >>>>> have >>>>> included a review of the app, but something like a sale is a time >>>>> sensitive issue and not everyone is going to have time to write a >>>>> review >>>>> of every app they mention on the list. She did provide a ringing >>>>> endorsement, which if I didn't already have Note Master, would have >>>>> been >>>>> enough to encourage me to take a look. As someone who already has Note >>>>> Master, I appreciated the timeliness of the message. >>>>> >>>>> Here are some of Note Master's features, as taken from the App Store, >>>>> and as Eileen says, the app is quite accessible. >>>>> >>>>> CREATE AMAZING NOTES >>>>> Text, Images, Lists, Headers, Photos, Drawings...you'll never be >>>>> limited >>>>> to boring notes again! >>>>> >>>>> . Images, photos and drawings can be inserted right inside the note. >>>>> . Easy creation of bulleted lists, numbered lists, checkbox lists. >>>>> . Bold text headings can be used to organize the note contents into >>>>> logical sections. >>>>> . Choose from a stunning variety of note backgrounds and fonts. >>>>> >>>>> KEEP IN SYNC >>>>> . Syncs with either Dropbox or Google Drive. >>>>> . AUTOMATIC SYNC when you open or close the app. No need to remember to >>>>> manually sync! >>>>> . Use the app normally while syncing occurs in the background! >>>>> . Notes synced with Dropbox are synced as .docx files and can be edited >>>>> with Microsoft Word 2007 or later. >>>>> . Notes synced with Google Drive are synced as Google Docs documents >>>>> and >>>>> can be viewed/edited online. >>>>> . Multiple devices running NoteMaster can share notes by syncing with >>>>> the same account. >>>>> >>>>> STAY ORGANIZED >>>>> . Keep your notes organized with categories. >>>>> . Categories can be locked with a passcode for privacy. >>>>> . Find notes quickly using the full-text search. >>>>> >>>>> SHARE WITH OTHERS >>>>> . E-mail notes as rich HTML e-mails. >>>>> . Print note to any AirPrint compatible printer. >>>>> . Share notes on Twitter or Facebook (requires iOS 6.0 or later) >>>>> >>>>> Perfect for: >>>>> . General note taking . Meetings . Shopping . Journals . Scrapbooks . >>>>> Business >>>>> >>>>> On 05/08/2013 11:05 AM, Bryan Schulz wrote: >>>>>> hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> when saying this app is great, it would help to say why you like it >>>>>> and >>>>>> what it does and why it is better than a similar app that comes >>>>>> with the >>>>>> iphone! >>>>>> Bryan Schulz >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileens Misrahi" >>>>>> <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:19 AM >>>>>> Subject: Note Master on sale for both the iPhone and iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought I would alert the list that Note Master is on sale for both >>>>>> the iPhone and iPad. The price is 0.99 reduced from 3.99. I use it all >>>>>> the time when I am traveling for my job. It is accessible with VO and >>>>>> the most recent update has made the app a pleasure to use. Here is the >>>>>> link: >>> http://link.store-news-app.com/2.0/?itunes=https%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2F >>> >>> us%2Fapp%2Fnotemaster-amazing-notes-synced%2Fid297921531%3Fmt%3D8&storeID=1 >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Enjoy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Eileen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Christopher (CJ) >>>>> chaltain at Gmail >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google >>>>> >>>>> Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this 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