However, sir, you are forgetting about the textalker software which became
available in 1982-83 and the products offered by G W Micro in it's previous
carnation, Computer Aids and Braille-Edit which preceeded Outspoken, I
believe.
Nun the less, I still stand by my claim that we have no reason to be
pesimistic, Apple has shown us, over and over that it is commited to
providing access via voice-over, no need to get paranoid at this point in
time.
Fred Olver
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Keynote
I didn't think there was any bad energy, pessimism or worry in Shane's
message or email either. I think people watching their first WWDC
keynote should be able to ask innocent and sincere questions on this
list. My only frustration with Shane's message, which I solved with the
delete key, is that this has already been discussed on this list.
There's going to be a lot of discussion on this list about IOS 7 and the
WWDC, so if people are interested, I'd suggest they pay attention to
these discussions on this list and maybe even look through the archives
before asking a question that they think might have already come up.
Note I wouldn't have said anything about this at all, if I wasn't
already responding to Fred's message.
Also, in my opinion, Apple wasn't the first computer company to care
about accessibility. Microsoft and IBM were investing resources on
accessibility back when Outspoken was the only screen access option for
Apple products and in those intervening years between Outspoken and
VoiceOver where Apple had no accessibility for their products. I agree
Apple has a better accessibility story right now than any other computer
company, but this hasn't always been the case.
On 06/11/2013 03:08 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
Wow!
a bit sensitive no? I didn't get a ounce of negativity from his post.
Note: he said its his first time watching WWDC so, he's probably not aware
that Apple seldom speaks about accessibility during their keynotes. And
he asked for others thoughts. He offered no opinion of his own except, he
thought IOS 7 sounded interesting. I wouldn't really put that down in the
negative category. lol. I don't see how having no opinion, and asking
for that of others is negative? Or, did I miss something in his post?
Just saying.
Ricardo Walker
[email protected]
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Fred Olver <[email protected]> wrote:
Shane, why concentrate bad energy on something which 1 we do not have any
control over and 2 we don't know what the future holds with regard to
accessibility.
Is there some reason we should spend all this time until fall worrying
about this? Have you a crystal ball and have seen in to the future? Apple
was the first, or nearly the first computer-based company to care about
those of us with disabilities, is there some reason you think they might
change their mind about this.
Sounds to me like it would make more sense to look forward optimistically
rather than look forward pessimistically, takes less energy and it is
truly alot more fun.
Fred Olver
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane clark" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 2:02 PM
Subject: Apple Keynote
Hi guys,
Well yall, what'd you think of the presentation? I've Never saw one
live, but I've been watching it on my Apple TV. What I've heard, it
sounds like iOS 7 will be pretty interesting, but I didn't hear anything
mentioned about accessibility... Your thoughts?
Shane.
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