Hi David and others, I know that you disagreed before and that is of course perfectly OK. I also did not say I wanted Voiceover muted meaning I don't want iOS to do the equivalent of a 3-finger double tap when a call comes in. Everybody else who wrote had some suggestion which was another work-around like turning down Voiceover volume with the rotor to the point where it didn't bother me on the call, flick the mute switch etc. All I am saying is that I don't like Voiceover to automatically start reading incoming text messages, emails and push notifications or to have an on/off switch somewhere in the Voiceover settings area where a person could tell it not to do so which would allow people like you, David, to leave it off so that it will read whatever comes in. I am not saying I want Voiceover disabled completely or muted as in speech off. I was answering Tessa's question which was whether there was a way to stop Voiceover from automatically reading stuff while on a call by explaining that no, there was no way of doing so other than to do something like turn speech off which somebody had already suggested. All I did was elaborate on that hoping some more people would write to Apple about this which I have done at several occasions. If this is unchanged in iOS 7 I will do so again requesting that this will be added as a feature that is controllable by the user.
Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 1:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Alerts during a call? Hello Sieghard, Well, I must very strongly and completely disagree with you here. If Apple automatically disables VoiceOver during a call, I will complain quite loudly and vociferously. I turn VO volume up when I need to interact with automated phone systems, and turn VO down when otherwise on the phone. This way, I am able to here text messages when they come in, even when I am on a phone call. Given the nature of my business, this feature is extremely important. And yes, my mobile phone is my only line. I can agree that Apple implement a setting to disable automatic reading of prompts whilst on a call, but to fully disable this feature would be major frustration for me, and for others who I know. The fact is, if people do not like a feature or factor, they complain about it. If people like a feature or factor, they do not say anything. Even more, people who like a feature often do not read the messages from the people who are complaining about it. I have heard this referred to as the echo chamber effect, since all you hear are the voices that agree with you. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 12/08/2013, at 16:31, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Tessa, Donna, Jodie, Andy and others, > > This is one of the most annoying characteristics of Voiceover and I hope > that all of you who dislike this as much as me write to > [email protected] to request that in some future update Voiceover is > just silenced when a call is active. Andy's suggestion to turn off push > notifications to me is something I should not have to do, I have an iPhone > and use apps which have push notifications because that is what I want and > having to turn off all push notifications just so my phone calls aren't > interrupted is equivalent to saying you have to turn off WiFi, Bluetooth, > Push email and location services just so I can get better battery life. I > don't need a fancy smartphone if I have to disable half its features to stop > it from doing one annoying thing. > > This discussion has come up before and I know some people have argued in > favour of all of this chatter happening although I really don't know why > somebody would want their phone to start reading a text message, an email or > a news headline while one is on a phone call. When this happens to me I > sometimes have to ask the other party to hold on for a moment until > Voiceover shuts up or I can shut it up because I can't hear them any more. > The iPhone is after all also a cell phone and while some people may use it > more for other stuff than actual calling, for me it is my only personal line > and I also use it for my business so I do receive and make a lot of calls > and I really hope that maybe in iOS 7 Apple has done something about this. > In my opinion Voiceover should just be quiet during a call, but I guess it > would be OK if at least there was a setting where one could enable this and > that way those who like to hear all of this stuff while they are on the > phone can continue to do so. The same goes for Voiceover constantly > announcing the call duration, also annoying and completely unnecessary, if I > want to check how long I have been on the phone I can easily touch the > screen and check and I don't have to hear it every 20 or 30 seconds. I > understand that I can turn speech off with a 3-finger double tap and I > sometimes do that, but it's a major pain in the winter when my iPhone is in > my pocket or belt clip under a heavy coat and I am wearing gloves. > > > Regards, > > Sieghard > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Andy Baracco > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Alerts during a call? > > You can go into Settings, Notifications, and shut off the push notifications > > that bother you. That's what I have done. > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donna > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:10 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Alerts during a call? > > Yeah, I know whatcha mean, receive no alerts, get an important phone call > and the alerts come in numbers!! > > I use the 3 finger double tap to turn off voiceover. For me this is faster > and less interruptive when in a call. > > Donna > > On Aug 11, 2013, at 6:16 PM, "Tessa" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi< >> How do I stop an alert from speaking when I'm taking a phone call. For >> example when one of my facebook friends posts something the phone lets me >> know but it often happens when I'm in a call and I can't seem to turn it >> off >> without turning off the alert feature, unless I'm missing something which >> is >> entirely possible. 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