Hi Tom,

The proximity sensor is also important because it turns off the touch screen
if you hold your phone up to your ear. This of course is also the case for
somebody who doesn't run Voiceover since otherwise you would constantly
press stuff on your screen with your ear and cheek.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Thom Spittle
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Sieghard,
Here's a question for you though. If the switch to speakerphone is only for
voice over users, then did they put in the proximity sensor for only the
blind to use? 
I don't know of another app that uses this, with the exception of the lift
to talk with siri.
But iPhone 4 has the proximity sensor as well, and it doesn't have siri.
Hmmm..


Thom

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:45 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
> 
> OK, Cara, sounds good, but I bet you lunch next time I'm in LA that 
> you
won't
> get it to work. Automatic switching to speakerphone when you take the 
> phone away from your ear does not exist if Voiceover is not running 
> and if
it
> worked my guess would be that your friend accidently touched the 
> speakerphone button as he took the phone away from his ear.
> There might be other explanations but they would require wild 
> speculation on my part regarding what was in your coffee that day *smile*.
> 
> 
> Take care,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Cara Quinn
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:21 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> 
> I'm waiting on my reply to test this out with a friend in person. We 
> got
this
> to work for him a few months ago but I want to do this again to make 
> sure we're not dreaming! :)
> 
> We tried this over the phone yesterday and it did not seem to work but 
> we did have this going before so I want to make sure Ih have all my 
> facts straight before I write back. That's all. :)
> 
> There's always a possibility this did work before and now does not 
> etc. So
I'll
> definitely respond again to this thread as soon as we have a few 
> minutes
to
> really take the time necessary to test this thoroughly again.
> 
> Thanks so much to you all and talk with you soon!
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Sep 23, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Cara,
> 
> I know at least one or two other people asked how a non Voiceover user 
> can enable auto switching between earpiece and speakerphone, but I 
> haven't seen a reply yet. If you have a minute, could you let us know? 
> I know a
lot of
> sighted iPhone users and nobody has ever mentioned this.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Cara Quinn
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:09 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
> 
> I'm not sure where this is coming from that this is only a VO feature.
> 
> Non-VO users can have auto-switching as well.
> 
> I personally have always liked this feature and would never never 
> never want to see it go! :)
> 
> A setting would certainly be welcome but that would be as far as I 
> personally would go. :)
> 
> Great topic all, and have an awesome day!
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Rick Alfaro <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't 
> have
to
> worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much 
> trouble at all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, 
> let's see how
the 5s
> does with this.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
> 
> Hello Brice,
> 
> Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
seconds
> of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact, I
received a
> replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't auto 
> focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone 
> do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
> I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S 
> if anybody has that issue.
> 
> I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic 
> switching
to
> speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone 
> button just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone 
> and this would completely get rid of this issue which has been an 
> issue to some degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What 
> does everybody else think, would you prefer to have to double tap on 
> the Speakerphone button or would you prefer to keep the automatic
switching as is?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Brice Smith
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
> 
> Hi, everyone.
> 
> Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I 
> double tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only
started
> happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double
tap,
> immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the 
> speaker phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally 
> switch to speaker phone even when the phone is next to my head when 
> I've just started a call.
> 
> I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
> Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brice
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