Ricardo,

In a lot of countries, the law forces companies to support a product for a
given period of time.  Often, they just can't pull out and say that you are
stuck with the product you buy.  This happens in cases of bankruptcy but,
for as long as they are in business, they have to support their products.
Many times, the support far exceeds the periods predicted by law such as the
support for Windows XP.  I'm sure nobody could have forced Microsoft to
support XP for more than a decade but it worked for them so they did it. I
suspect Apple will support IOS 6 for quite a while because some of their
products are not upgradable to IOS 7.  We have to admit that a lot of us on
this list seem to keep up with the shiny new stuff but we don't necessarily
reflect what happens in the world market.   

Ron & Danvers
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 1:17 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Hi,

Sure.  But if only 10% of all devices are running IOS 6 in say 3 months, why
would a developer bother with 10% of his potential user base?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 29, 2013, at 1:07 AM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote:

> most of the devs might have to maintain some backward compatibility as
there are those of us who have older devices that won't support iOS 7. Sure,
I have an iPhone 5, but I also have a 3GS here as well. I use the 5 as a
portable hotspot and the 3 has all my music and navigational apps on it.
seems ridiculous, but the 3GS has far more memory available to it. So, there
you go.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Sep 28, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I think it depends on what we mean by support.  I don't think there will
be any more updates for IOS 6 if that's what is meant here.  In a week, the
adoption rate for IOS 7 has already gone over 50%  In a month or 2, this
rate will more than likely be around 90%.  At that point, I don't
thinkdevelopers will really care about making sure their apps work with IOS
6 or not.  So in that way, I can be IOS 6 not being supported in the not too
distant future..
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Sep 28, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Christopher,
>>> I don't believe it is true that Apple no longer supports iOS six. There
are too many devices out there that still use it. For example, the iPod
touch fourth-generation. I still have an old iPad that I can't upgrade past
iOS 5 thanks to Apple. There are certainly apps I can't use anymore, but
many many apps still work fine on the iPad. So until I see something from
Apple that says they will no longer support iOS 6 at all, I'm not going to
believe it.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't think this is the only reason to or the only criteria to use to
determine to upgrade or not. Apple isn't supporting IOS 6 any more, so you
won't be getting updates or security fixes for IOS 6. I haven't seen a
statement on this, but I doubt you'll continue to get Apple support if you
keep running IOS 6. App developers will also stop supporting IOS 6.
>>>> 
>>>> On 09/28/2013 01:02 AM, Aman Singer wrote:
>>>>> Hi, Sieghard and all.
>>>>> I don't think that iOS 7 is particularly bad, but that isn't, 
>>>>> IMHO, the standard I would judge it on. The only reason to 
>>>>> upgrade, at least for me, is that the upgrade will be better than 
>>>>> what came before. If it's better, and I mean better on the whole, 
>>>>> taking everything into account, then it's worth the upgrade no 
>>>>> matter what bugs are in the system. The bugs just reduce the 
>>>>> quality, if other things raise it, the update is fine. As it 
>>>>> stands, I think the question is whether iOS 7 is better for any 
>>>>> particular user than iOS 6.x. That's something each user will have 
>>>>> to determine for himself, and it's something which is specific to 
>>>>> him. That is, iOS 7 is worth the upgrade to me because things work 
>>>>> better with my Bluetooth to hearing aid bridge. For someone who 
>>>>> doesn't use such a bridge but who's like me in everything else, it 
>>>>> may not be worth it. For someone who hates the old app switcher, it
may be great, and for someone who loves the way mail is displayed in the old
mail program it may be horrible... You get the idea.
>>>>> Aman
>>>>> --Original Message-----
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:54 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now 
>>>>> forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I just have a complain about Ios 7. It makes my iPhone 4, a 
>>>>> old iPhone of 16Gb, a little bit slow. Also, some times I try to 
>>>>> open apps, and they just doesn't open, and I guess is it because 
>>>>> the Ios 7 is too heavy for the processor of my old iPhone 4.
>>>>> But in my iPhone 5, it works much better, and the slow thing  that 
>>>>> I feel in my iPhone 4, is imperceptible. Also, the last update, 
>>>>> fixed the issue that I had with the time, or it is that I am 
>>>>> feeling so far. Also I have to  say that Ios 7 brought  many new 
>>>>> things, things that will be so helpful for us using voice over, and
every body who uses Ios 7.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> chaltain at Gmail
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