Hi, I very much agree with Cara. This should be taken up with Apple. I don't doubt that the iPhone 4 might have some difficulty running iOS 7. Apple does have second to none customer service. I bet they will find a way to help.
Robert Carter On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:13 PM, "Pablo Morales" <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, the problem is the IOs 7 is making the phone very slow, and is very > hard to work on this device, since IOs 7 appeared. If IOs 7 didn't make my > iPhone 4 so slow, probably I would not been saying anything. But use an > iPhone 4 who takes 22 seconds to open settings, and if I go to mail, > contacts, ...., it takes 14 more seconds to open that part in settings. Is > very annoying work like this. I don't care if apple wants to keep updated > every body. But the update should not became our devices in devices very hard > to be use, or devices that are becoming in unusable devices due the last > update. > Those cases that you explained to us, sound very nice, but if I don't want > to install an update, apple has not right to fill my iPhone memory. It is the > memory of my iPhone, no the memory of apple's iPhone. So I paid it, and it is > my. > You know, property rights. If I want to put my iPhone under a drill, it is my > iPhone, and I am able to do with it, what ever I want. If I want to put my > iPhone inside the pool, it is my iPhone, and I am able to do what ever I want > with my iPhone. But apple doesn't have rights to download anything in the > memory of my iPhone without my permission. Apple doesn't have right to push > me to install an operated system that makes my iPhone so slow, and with > bunches of bugs. They don't have rights on my property. > you know, property rights. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ROBERT CARTER > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:30 PM > Subject: Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations > > Hi, > > I would like to address this issue from a historical perspective. > > Since it was founded back in 1976, Apple has always been about moving forward > even if that meant canabilizing its own product line. We saw it when they > moved from the Apple II to the Mac. Again when they replaced an extremely > successful top selling iPod with the iPod Nano. > > Each time a new version of OS X or iOS is released, the previous version is > unavailable by the very next day on every piece of hardware that is for sale > in an Apple store. Apple moves forward leaving the earlier OS behind. > > If, for whatever reason, you choose to stay with an older version there will > always be a price to pay. Stick with Snow Leopard and you will not have > iCloud. Stick with iOS 6 and you will have 3 GB less space on your device. > Apple wants all of its customers to run the latest version. They are about > moving forward. Apple has never apologized for pushing out the latest > operating system. It is at the core of Apple's DNA. People who don't > understand this don't have a good understanding of Apple's philosophy. This > is understandable given that so many people have recently come to Apple > devices. > > This approach is extremely successful with the majority already having > upgraded to iOS 7. Of course there are bugs but most of us find the > advantages outweigh the disadvantages of using the current operating system. > Since Apple wants its customers to keep buying products, it will fix the bugs. > > A willingness to move forward or an acceptance that one pays the price for > choosing not to do so is just the way it works. No amount of complaining will > change this reality. > > If you decide that 3 GB of space is to much of a price to pay for staying > with iOS 6, you could upgrade or you could switch to Android. They, > unfortunately, have the opposite problem where many devices cannot or are not > allowed to run the latest version of the OS. Like with Apple, this reality is > just the way it is. No amount of complaining will change it. > > Robert Carter > > > On Oct 4, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello, >> Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree that the >> automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple should force on >> people even though it is also not new since they did the same with iOS 5 and >> iOS 6. >> Here is a point, though, which I wonder about: >> People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this update >> takes up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If you only have >> maybe 3 or 4 Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it doesn’t leave you with >> much. If you use a 16 Gb phone but you don’t really fill your device with >> music and only use storage space for some apps, maybe a few books or >> pictures, then you probably have at least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case >> it’s a mute point if half of that space is used up by the update since >> chances are you won’t run out of space. >> If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder what >> happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff from your >> phone to make room for the update, it is my guess that if you went to >> Software Update in General Settings it would have an “Download and Install” >> option since it could not download the update and if you tried it you would >> be informed that there wasn’t enough space. At that point you would have to >> take off (un-sync) some music, pictures, books or apps depending on what you >> have on your phone to fill it up should you want to install the update, >> afterwards you could resync that content. >> So, maybe this is something to remember next year as a work-around. If you >> have a 16 Gb device and don’t want a new iOS update to download, simply make >> sure you fill your device with content and only leave maybe less than 2 Gb >> free for use, this way there is not enough space for the update to download >> and you are good to go. If you have 5, 6 or 8 Gb of free space or even more >> then having the just under 3 Gb download sitting on your device is a mute >> point. Should people have to do this? No, probably not, I think Apple should >> put something into the Settings which just as you can turn off automatic app >> updates allows you to turn off automatic iOS update downloads. They could >> even have this set to On by default since then it’s up to each person who >> cares enough to not want this to turn it off. >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> a quarter or and have a smaller >> First, it is my understanding that this only downloads via >> is a point, though, regarding space. 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