I am sure people are getting tired of me always talking about how blind people 
are using the touchscreen. However, this is my research, so I am continually 
studying it.

When using a long picker, what often happens is the finger stops moving so much 
vertically, so VO eventually interprets the touch location on the iDevice 
rather than the flick. For myself, if I slow down a little and pay close 
attention, I do not lose the picker, no matter how long it is. That said, it is 
frustrating and tiresome to maintain such careful focus. So, for long pickers, 
I do the following. After VO has focus on the picker, I do a double tap and 
hold (pass through gesture) near the edge of the display across from the 
direction I want to move the picker. For instance, if I want to move the picker 
up, I start just above the home button. After I hear the ascending tones which 
signal pass through, I slide my finger straight toward the opposite end of the 
display. I start somewhat slowly and accelerate my speed slowly as I slide my 
finger. With VO sounds on, one will hear the clicks as the picker turns. A neat 
thing about iOS (which was pointed out to me by a sighted friend) is that the 
pickers continue spinning for a little while after the finger leaves the 
display. The clicks go fast, then they slow down and stop. With practice, I 
have become fairly good at causing the picker to spin 60 to 70 choices per 
spin. Of course, one then needs to either touch the picker's actual location 
(which is usually at the bottom of the display, or flick away from and back 
onto the picker to see where it is now.

After learning this last year, I have come to really enjoy pickers. Then again, 
I am a kid at heart and enjoy making the wheel spin.

As to iOS 7, because the delay timing in VO has been decreased, one must be 
more precise about one's actions before touching the display.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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> On 8 Oct 2013, at 9:06, Richard Turner <richard.turne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary and all,
> I didn't mean to suggest it was a BARD bug, but a bug in general.
> I was not at a place where I could resprond in detail, so just confirmed that 
> it is a bug.
> A bug that is most annoying and I hope lots of people let Apple Accessibility 
> know it is bothersome so maybe it will get some attention.
> Just my opinion,
> 
> 
> Richard
> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> I have seen this focus problem with pickers in places other than the Bard 
>> app, so I'm not sure it is a Bard issue. And this is under IOS 6, not 7. It 
>> seems quite common with pickers where you are doing an on line order and 
>> have to input your state using a picker. Buy.com comes to mind. By the time 
>> I get to O for Oregon, I generally have to re-access that picker several 
>> times, and the only way to do it is to double tap somewhere else in the form 
>> to force VO focus there, then go back to the picker and try again. It is 
>> frustrating, and it does not happen with all pickers for me.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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