My NLS account is currently an active. I need to reactivate my account before I can use the Bard app.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Oct 2013, at 1:53, "Richard Turner" <[email protected]> wrote: > > So, David, have you used this technique successfully with the BARD app? > I managed to scroll it to the letter G, but no further. > > Richard > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of David Chittenden > Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 1:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Can't get the picker item to stay in focus when searching the > bard website using the app > > I am sure people are getting tired of me always talking about how blind > people are using the touchscreen. However, this is my research, so I am > continually studying it. > > When using a long picker, what often happens is the finger stops moving so > much vertically, so VO eventually interprets the touch location on the > iDevice rather than the flick. For myself, if I slow down a little and pay > close attention, I do not lose the picker, no matter how long it is. That > said, it is frustrating and tiresome to maintain such careful focus. So, for > long pickers, I do the following. After VO has focus on the picker, I do a > double tap and hold (pass through gesture) near the edge of the display > across from the direction I want to move the picker. For instance, if I want > to move the picker up, I start just above the home button. After I hear the > ascending tones which signal pass through, I slide my finger straight toward > the opposite end of the display. I start somewhat slowly and accelerate my > speed slowly as I slide my finger. With VO sounds on, one will hear the > clicks as the picker turns. A neat thing about iOS (which was pointed out to > me by a sighted friend) is that the pickers continue spinning for a little > while after the finger leaves the display. The clicks go fast, then they > slow down and stop. With practice, I have become fairly good at causing the > picker to spin 60 to 70 choices per spin. Of course, one then needs to > either touch the picker's actual location (which is usually at the bottom of > the display, or flick away from and back onto the picker to see where it is > now. > > After learning this last year, I have come to really enjoy pickers. Then > again, I am a kid at heart and enjoy making the wheel spin. > > As to iOS 7, because the delay timing in VO has been decreased, one must be > more precise about one's actions before touching the display. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 8 Oct 2013, at 9:06, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Mary and all, >> I didn't mean to suggest it was a BARD bug, but a bug in general. >> I was not at a place where I could resprond in detail, so just confirmed > that it is a bug. >> A bug that is most annoying and I hope lots of people let Apple > Accessibility know it is bothersome so maybe it will get some attention. >> Just my opinion, >> >> >> Richard >> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) >> >>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Richard, >>> I have seen this focus problem with pickers in places other than the Bard > app, so I'm not sure it is a Bard issue. And this is under IOS 6, not 7. It > seems quite common with pickers where you are doing an on line order and > have to input your state using a picker. Buy.com comes to mind. By the time > I get to O for Oregon, I generally have to re-access that picker several > times, and the only way to do it is to double tap somewhere else in the form > to force VO focus there, then go back to the picker and try again. 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