Yes, I think in Europe this is very different since there is so much more competition and you can get much cheaper plans. Unfortunately in Canada and the US things are still somewhat antiquated and companies have you by the short and curlies if you go for a contract. $50 for 2 Gb of data and unlimited voice and text in Canada is the best I have seen and while I think in 5 years prices will also come down here, it's only just starting.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Edward Green Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: using the IPhone as a local phone in the UK Hi Sieghard, Whether or not to buy a phone on contract or unlocked is slightly less clear cut here. I had always bought my phones unlocked until now, but I wanted to get the 5S and there were no off-contract ones available. I paid £79 (between $100-$120) for a 5S 64GB on a 2-year contract, and what with the monthly fees, I wasn't worse off. It cost me $30 to unlock it through the network. As an example of how much cheeper contracts are here, my Canadian wife can't believe she gets a $20 a month contract with unlimited data, unlimited texts and 600 minutes. Obviously I'm paying quite a lot more than that for the phone, but it's still a good deal. Cheers, Ed On 11 Oct 2013, at 22:02, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Here in Canada providers are now legally forced to unlock a phone 90 > days after the start of the contract provided your account is in good > standing, i.e. you are paying your monthly amount on time. > I am pretty sure in the States they have to unlock if the contract has > ended, probably worth checking what the law says although I am also > not sure if this could be different from State to State or if this > falls under federal jurisdiction which I would assume it does. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Edward Green > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 1:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: using the IPhone as a local phone in the UK > > Hi Craig, > > Whether or not your warranty is voided by unlocking your iPone will > probably depend on the method you choose to do it. I unlocked my 5S > with my provider > 24 hours after buying it, for half the price that the dodgy unlocking > kiosks were going to charge me thanks to a tip I got off list. Such > an unlock I doubt voids the warranty, but obviously if you choose a > different method it might. > > Worth ringing your carrier to see what they say. > > Cheers, > > Ed > On 11 Oct 2013, at 21:24, Craig Werner <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello, Sieghard. >> >> You make a most compelling case for an unlocked iPhone. I'll check >> into this possibility the next time I travel. However, my iPhone 5 >> is under warranty, and I don't know if an unlock will be possible >> without voiding the agreement. >> >> I am finding the burgeoning discussion of UK providers and their >> rates to be very helpful. It's not the kind of thread usually found >> on this list, and I hope it will be allowed to continue. >> >> Craig >> >> On 10/11/13, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Craig, >>> This is definitely a solution for phone calls, but if you were able >>> to > get >>> your phone unlocked, then instead of having to use a second phone >>> all you would need is a SIM from an irish provider and your iPhone >>> would allow > you >>> to make cheap local calls, be called, send and receive text and you >>> could also buy some prepaid data. I did this in Thailand since I >>> have an > unlocked >>> iPhone 4S and for the just over 2 weeks I was there I paid $25 for a >>> prepaid SIM which included the price of the SIM ($2 or $3), 1 Gig of >>> data, text messages and a bunch of minutes. I walked up a provider's >>> counter at the airport and was out of there 5 minutes later and the >>> lady even swapped > the >>> SIM for me. Almost everywhere I went I had good 3G coverage and only >>> in some places away from the cities and out on the ocean during a >>> boat trip I had Edge. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf >>> Of Craig Werner >>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 5:24 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: using the IPhone as a local phone in the UK >>> >>> Ray and all, I travel rather often to the Republic of Ireland and >>> Northern Ireland, and I go the route of buying a cell phone in >>> Ireland that works on the "pay as you go" plan. True, I lose iPhone >>> accessibility, but I can still use the phone whenever there is a >>> wireless network for downloading files and listening to radio >>> stations, etc. When I get home, I turn off the Ireland phone until >>> my next trip. Calls are very inexpensive, and I don't have to worry >>> about charges from my U.S. carrier. >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> On 10/11/13, Edward Green <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Ray, >>>> >>>> If you intend to use your phone with a UK SIM, then you may not >>>> need to >>> turn >>>> data roaming off as data is really cheap with some carriers here >>>> and often significant amounts of it come bundled with pay as you >>>> talk SIMs and their top-ups. >>>> >>>> Up to you though obviously. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> On 11 Oct 2013, at 11:14, Cait and Maggie >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There might be a charge for unlocking from your carrier, though, >>>>> even > if >>>>> your contract is up. rogers tried to charge us fifty bucks for this. >>>>> >>>>> Just wanted people to be aware, just in case. >>>>> Cait >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-10-11, at 5:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ray, >>>>>> >>>>>> With the iPhone you have to ask your carrier to unlock it for >>>>>> you. If you are with AT&T you can call them and ask, but I am not >>>>>> sure if they do it while you are under contract. If you are past >>>>>> your 2 years I believe they are obligated to unlock the phone for >>>>>> you. From what I heard they send instructions after they do >>>>>> whatever it is they have to do on their > end. >>>>>> You >>>>>> then have to hook your phone up to iTunes and do a restore and >>>>>> once this is done you should get a message that your phone is now >>>>>> unlocked. >>>>>> >>>>>> When are you going to England and for how long? You can reply >>>>>> direct, [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney >>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 1:22 AM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: using the IPhone as a local phone in the UK >>>>>> >>>>>> Guessing that in order to do that I am going to have to get an >>>>>> unlock code with other phones I have had that unlock was based on >>>>>> the IMEI code. >>>>>> Does >>>>>> the same hold with the IPhone? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ray T. Mahorney >>>>>> WA4WGA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>>> Google >>>>>> Group. >>>>>> >>>>>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>>> >>>>>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>> Google Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>>> Google Group. >>>>>> >>>>>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>>> >>>>>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>> Google >>> Groups >>>>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send >>> an >>>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google Group. >>>>> >>>>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. >>>>> >>>>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>> >>>>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> >>>>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google >>>> Group. >>>> >>>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. >>>> >>>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> >>>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>>> [email protected]. >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>>> [email protected]. >>>> >>>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send > an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google >>> Group. >>> >>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. >>> >>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> >>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>> [email protected]. >>> >>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>> [email protected]. >>> >>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google >>> Group. >>> >>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. >>> >>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> >>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>> [email protected]. >>> >>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>> [email protected]. >>> >>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> >> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. >> >> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> >> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > [email protected]. >> >> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > [email protected]. >> >> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups > "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an > email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > [email protected]. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > [email protected]. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing [email protected]. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing [email protected]. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing [email protected]. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
