Listen to the latest Today in iOs Podcast, Rob covers this issue and
apparently it is a 3 degree difference and Rob was told to just wait for an
update to fix this. The article indicated that this maybe hardware related
and not a software issue, but it almost sounds like it might just be a
software issue.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 7:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up -
gizmodo.com

Just out of curiousity I tried using the level with my wife's 5 and my 5s
which was received the Tuesday after they went on sale. Their is a
difference of about 3 degrees between the two phones with hers showing
0 and mine -3 which is about a/4 inch off the table. I tried it on a couple
of different surfaces in case one wasn't flat and got the same results. I
did not try the compass part because I don't think the difference is as
important. Although I hope Apple some how fixes this I don't think it will
have too much effect since I don't use the phone for woodworking.

On 10/14/13, Grant Hardy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oh for sure, many navigation apps use the compass. I just meant that 
> in my experience usually navigation apps don't rely on it exclusively 
> because there's lots of information like your heading that can be derived
from GPS.
>
> Please post tomorrow after you've taken your shiny new phone out of 
> the box and let us know whether your sensors seem to work properly. I 
> agree with you, everyone has at least one year of warranty (more if 
> you buy Apple Care
> Plus) so I don't think I'll sweat it too much at this point especially 
> considering that the majority of phones seem to exhibit this 
> behaviour. Or rather, the majority of people who have posted about 
> this issue around the internet can replicate it.
>
> Grant
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: October 14, 2013 3:17 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - 
> gizmodo.com
>
> Hi Grant,
>
> Some apps do use the compass (Blindsquare is one) but I am not sure if 
> the variance described is enough to make a real difference. I am 
> getting my 5S tomorrow (HaHaHa, beat you) and I certainly appreciated 
> Cara posting this because at least one has a chance to specifically 
> test for these issues. I am a woodworker and I do build things and do 
> my own renovations/modifications to my home to a large degree, but 
> it's not like I'd ever use my iPhone as my authorative level, it's 
> much to short to be really precise. I have a dedicated audio level and 
> even that is only 12 inches and there is a reason why framers use 4 
> foot long levels. I can see how this might affect hard-core gamers 
> which I am not and I suspect it will be an academic problem for me, 
> certainly not enough to scare me off like Pablo who cancelled his 
> order, but if I wasn't in a big hurry and my iPhone wasn't due to 
> arrive tomorrow I might consider that. Anyhow, I have 1 year of 
> warranty and I bought Apple Care so I am quite convinced that if I 
> could replicate this issue and it was quite serious I could get a 
> replacement in a couple of month when Apple has made the appropriate
modifications.
>
> On a general note, I think it must be a real nightmare to discover all 
> of these bugs and get them fixed. There are so many functions and 
> features some of which are very specific. I know it's easy to say "How 
> can Apple release a phone which has such obvious bugs" or "How can 
> they release iOS 7 when it has such obvious bugs". But it's always 
> easier to play Monday morning Quarterback and to draw on what tens of 
> millions users report in the first few weeks of using a new iiOS or a 
> new device.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
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