Sieghart, Thanks very much for your descriptive emails as I learn so much from you and also new items I didn't know existed. Keep up the good work.
Ed. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Old phone ring tone and how to use Voiceover features to quickly find stuff Hi Pablo and others, OK, I started out by rewriting my previous explanation how Pablo can find the Classic Old Phone ringtone. I just thought I say at the beginning that the message ended up a bit more than that as I thought it might be useful for some of the new people on the list to read about some Voiceover features which are at your disposal to find stuff quickly and efficiently. I think in the last month or so there has been a lot of criticism and negative stuff because of iOS 7 bugs and so on, but let's all not forget how advanced, powerful and user friendly iOS and Voiceover are as well. The features I describe here, mainly using the rotor and the item chooser are not new in iOS 7, but I think especially the item chooser is underused and maybe many people don't even know about it. I also have seen comments from some who think iOS 7 is just not worth it, but I think there are awesome new features in iOS 7 both in general (Control Center, Facetime Audio and a better SIRI are just 3 examples) and also in Voiceover. Here we have innovations like handwriting and copying the last spoken text to clipboard which I think are truly innovative, we asked for and got the ability to download multiple high quality voices, we have easy access to Dictation by simply doing a 2-finger double tap in an edit field, there is better implementation of the Action rotor and I could find more things. OK, I don't want to make this too long of a rant, so here is first a step-by-step explanation for Pablo how to find the Old Phone ringtone and then a bit more on using rotor features and the item chooser: 1. Go to Settings and Sounds. 2. When Voiceover says "Sounds, Back button it means you are at the very top left of the screen. Now turn your rotor to headings. 3. Swipe down 5 times until you get to the heading ""Sounds and Vibration Patterns". 4. Swipe right once, Voiceover will say "Ringtone" followed by whatever Ringtone you have currently selected. It is a button, double tap it. 5. Voiceover now will say "Ringtone, Sounds, Back button, once again you are at the very top left on the Back button. 6. Your rotor should still be on headings from the previous screen, so now just swipe down again 3 times until you find the heading "Alert Tones". 7. Swipe left once and you will hear Voiceover say "Classic". It doesn't say this is a button or a link or anything, but just double tap on it to open up the list of the Ringtones from the older iOS versions. 8. Touch at the very top or swipe left until you hear the donk sound which means you can't go further, once again this will say "Ringtone, Back Button". 9. Now swipe right through your list of the classic ringtones which start with Alarm and second is Alert and so on. As Craig explained, Old Phone is after Old Carhorn and before Piano Riff, it is just called "Piano Riff" and not "Old Piano Riff". If you prefer to count, it is 15 swipes to the right if you start from the Back button at the top. You could also find Old Phone by doing a 2-finger triple tap to bring up the item chooser, it will have a heading at the top saying "Item Chooser, 26" because there are 25 Classic ringtones (the 26th item is "Ringtone" which is the "Ringtone, Back button" at the top left). If you swipe right once you are on a search field, you can double tap here to enter edit mode and if you type "ph" you then only have 2 items showing, "Old Phone" and "Xylophone". If you now double tap on Old Phone in the item chooser, it will put Voiceover focus on it in the list and if you double tap it again now it will play and be set as your default ringtone. You can now either go back a few times to back out of the ringtone and sound screens by tapping the Back button at the top left or just press home to go back to your home screen. I would appreciate if maybe one or 2 people could do these steps and let me know if I missed anything. If you still don't find it, Pablo, then I suggest you maybe ask somebody to help you locate it because it's definitely there and I just can't see how it would be not there on your specific phone since it is an iOS 7 feature and not a phone feature and I guarantee you it is there. The reason why I explained it this much detail is because I hope it shows you and also others who take the time to read this that using the rotor to locate elements such as headings, buttons, form fields, links and so on is very powerful and it can help cut down on the number of swipes needed to find stuff. Also, using the item chooser when you try to find something in a longer list of things is equally powerful and while I know of it, I also have to remind myself sometimes that it is there and it might be the easiest way to find something. The item chooser has a search field and a table index where you can swipe to a particular letter which allows you to find something you know or assume is there very quickly. Once again, you bring it up with a 2-finger triple tap and you can use it on any home screen to bring up a list of all the apps on that home screen including the dock items. The listing of the item chooser is always in alphabetical order . If you use the search field in the item chooser, you also don't have to type exactly the characters an item starts with. You can type any string of characters and it will display items which have these characters in them anywhere. For example: if I bring up the item chooser on my first home page and type "bl" in the search field, I get 2 matches, "Audible" and "Blindsquare". In Audible the "bl" is at the end and in Blindsquare it is the first 2 letters - it is very powerful and a great way to find a particular link on a webpage with lots of links. If I use it in my Contacts list, it brings up 694 items, of course if I do this by going to the Contacts tab in the Phone app, that list includes all my contacts as well as the Add button at the top right, the tabs across the bottom, Favorites, Recents, Contacts, Keypad and Voicemail and so on. I am not saying Contacts is a good example for using the item chooser, you already have a table index and search field there, but I just used it as an example to show how it pulls the information into an alphabetical format which can be easily navigated and searched. Lastly, if you want to get out of the item chooser, just press the home button or do the scrub gesture, a 2-finger side to side sort of swipe or you can sort of draw a letter z with 2 fingers. Hope everybody will have an awesome Tuesday, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig Werner Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Old phone ring tone. Hello, Pablo. If you are using iOS 7.02, go to "Settings -> Sounds -> Ring Tone -> Classic." "Old Phone" is nestled between "Old Car Horn" an "Old Piano Riff." On 10/22/13, Pablo Morales <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all. > I am still lost trying to locate my self in the sound element in > settings. I remember that in the last IOs 6, we had a ring tone called > old phone. Now I can fine it anywhere. > In the classic view old phone is not either, and I would like to get > it back. I do not like songs or ring tones that doesn't sound like a phone. > Now, I went to the iTunes app, but here is very confuse get what we > are looking. For example, I wrote old phone in the search tag, and > just appear one, of 1.29 dollars. A little bit expensive just for a > ring tone. Later appear a link that says previous ring tone, but like > this will be so critic to find something. > Questions; > 1. Where is old phone ring tone of IOs 6, it is not in the classic view. > 2. Is a way to find something in a easy way in the iTunes app? > Thanks. > P > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > [email protected]. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > [email protected]. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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