Pablo, I'm sorry, but at this point I have no idea why they are not there on your devices. What do you see when you go into Classic, I mean which tones do you see, could you write down a list of them or at least the first 4 or 5 and maybe the last 3 or 4 that you see?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Old phone ring tone and how to use Voiceover features to quickly find stuff Sieghard. Thanks for the steps, and Idid that you said days ago, and I did that your last message says now. Even though, when I come to the step 9, I do not have old phone ring tone in this list. Also, I don't have alarm, and it should be there, but I don't have it in my iPhone 5s, and in my iPhone 4 either. Why the ring tones could be hided? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:13 AM Subject: Old phone ring tone and how to use Voiceover features to quickly find stuff > Hi Pablo and others, > > OK, I started out by rewriting my previous explanation how Pablo can find > the Classic Old Phone ringtone. I just thought I say at the beginning that > the message ended up a bit more than that as I thought it might be useful > for some of the new people on the list to read about some Voiceover > features > which are at your disposal to find stuff quickly and efficiently. I think > in > the last month or so there has been a lot of criticism and negative stuff > because of iOS 7 bugs and so on, but let's all not forget how advanced, > powerful and user friendly iOS and Voiceover are as well. The features I > describe here, mainly using the rotor and the item chooser are not new in > iOS 7, but I think especially the item chooser is underused and maybe many > people don't even know about it. I also have seen comments from some who > think iOS 7 is just not worth it, but I think there are awesome new > features > in iOS 7 both in general (Control Center, Facetime Audio and a better SIRI > are just 3 examples) and also in Voiceover. Here we have innovations like > handwriting and copying the last spoken text to clipboard which I think > are > truly innovative, we asked for and got the ability to download multiple > high > quality voices, we have easy access to Dictation by simply doing a > 2-finger > double tap in an edit field, there is better implementation of the Action > rotor and I could find more things. > > OK, I don't want to make this too long of a rant, so here is first a > step-by-step explanation for Pablo how to find the Old Phone ringtone and > then a bit more on using rotor features and the item chooser: > > 1. Go to Settings and Sounds. > 2. When Voiceover says "Sounds, Back button it means you are at the very > top > left of the screen. Now turn your rotor to headings. > 3. Swipe down 5 times until you get to the heading ""Sounds and Vibration > Patterns". > 4. Swipe right once, Voiceover will say "Ringtone" followed by whatever > Ringtone you have currently selected. It is a button, double tap it. > 5. Voiceover now will say "Ringtone, Sounds, Back button, once again you > are > at the very top left on the Back button. > 6. Your rotor should still be on headings from the previous screen, so now > just swipe down again 3 times until you find the heading "Alert Tones". > 7. Swipe left once and you will hear Voiceover say "Classic". It doesn't > say > this is a button or a link or anything, but just double tap on it to open > up > the list of the Ringtones from the older iOS versions. > 8. Touch at the very top or swipe left until you hear the donk sound which > means you can't go further, once again this will say "Ringtone, Back > Button". > 9. Now swipe right through your list of the classic ringtones which start > with Alarm and second is Alert and so on. As Craig explained, Old Phone is > after Old Carhorn and before Piano Riff, it is just called "Piano Riff" > and > not "Old Piano Riff". If you prefer to count, it is 15 swipes to the right > if you start from the Back button at the top. > > You could also find Old Phone by doing a 2-finger triple tap to bring up > the > item chooser, it will have a heading at the top saying "Item Chooser, 26" > because there are 25 Classic ringtones (the 26th item is "Ringtone" which > is > the "Ringtone, Back button" at the top left). > If you swipe right once you are on a search field, you can double tap here > to enter edit mode and if you type "ph" you then only have 2 items > showing, > "Old Phone" and "Xylophone". > If you now double tap on Old Phone in the item chooser, it will put > Voiceover focus on it in the list and if you double tap it again now it > will > play and be set as your default ringtone. > You can now either go back a few times to back out of the ringtone and > sound > screens by tapping the Back button at the top left or just press home to > go > back to your home screen. > > I would appreciate if maybe one or 2 people could do these steps and let > me > know if I missed anything. If you still don't find it, Pablo, then I > suggest > you maybe ask somebody to help you locate it because it's definitely there > and I just can't see how it would be not there on your specific phone > since > it is an iOS 7 feature and not a phone feature and I guarantee you it is > there. > > The reason why I explained it this much detail is because I hope it shows > you and also others who take the time to read this that using the rotor to > locate elements such as headings, buttons, form fields, links and so on is > very powerful and it can help cut down on the number of swipes needed to > find stuff. > Also, using the item chooser when you try to find something in a longer > list > of things is equally powerful and while I know of it, I also have to > remind > myself sometimes that it is there and it might be the easiest way to find > something. > The item chooser has a search field and a table index where you can swipe > to > a particular letter which allows you to find something you know or assume > is > there very quickly. Once again, you bring it up with a 2-finger triple tap > and you can use it on any home screen to bring up a list of all the apps > on > that home screen including the dock items. The listing of the item chooser > is always in alphabetical order . > If you use the search field in the item chooser, you also don't have to > type > exactly the characters an item starts with. You can type any string of > characters and it will display items which have these characters in them > anywhere. > For example: if I bring up the item chooser on my first home page and type > "bl" in the search field, I get 2 matches, "Audible" and "Blindsquare". In > Audible the "bl" is at the end and in Blindsquare it is the first 2 > letters > - it is very powerful and a great way to find a particular link on a > webpage > with lots of links. > If I use it in my Contacts list, it brings up 694 items, of course if I do > this by going to the Contacts tab in the Phone app, that list includes all > my contacts as well as the Add button at the top right, the tabs across > the > bottom, Favorites, Recents, Contacts, Keypad and Voicemail and so on. > I am not saying Contacts is a good example for using the item chooser, you > already have a table index and search field there, but I just used it as > an > example to show how it pulls the information into an alphabetical format > which can be easily navigated and searched. > Lastly, if you want to get out of the item chooser, just press the home > button or do the scrub gesture, a 2-finger side to side sort of swipe or > you > can sort of draw a letter z with 2 fingers. > > Hope everybody will have an awesome Tuesday, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Craig Werner > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Old phone ring tone. > > Hello, Pablo. > If you are using iOS 7.02, go to "Settings -> Sounds -> Ring Tone -> > Classic." "Old Phone" is nestled between "Old Car Horn" an "Old Piano > Riff." > > > On 10/22/13, Pablo Morales <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi all. >> I am still lost trying to locate my self in the sound element in >> settings. I remember that in the last IOs 6, we had a ring tone called >> old phone. Now I can fine it anywhere. >> In the classic view old phone is not either, and I would like to get >> it back. I do not like songs or ring tones that doesn't sound like a > phone. >> Now, I went to the iTunes app, but here is very confuse get what we >> are looking. For example, I wrote old phone in the search tag, and >> just appear one, of 1.29 dollars. A little bit expensive just for a >> ring tone. Later appear a link that says previous ring tone, but like >> this will be so critic to find something. >> Questions; >> 1. Where is old phone ring tone of IOs 6, it is not in the classic view. >> 2. 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