Dear List if turning the rotor changes the effects of up and down flicks
then isn't there a conflict with the actions menu which also uses up and
down flicks? How does it know when you want delete etc or headings etc.In
ee-mails I have read things like turn your rotor to paste, or make sure your
rotor is on actions. I can't find actions or paste in my rotor. Is there
another rotor other than the standard one. Also is it possible to vary what
is at the top of your rotor by contexts, e.g. links at the top in
webpages,typing mode at the top in text fields. I don't think this is
possible but I just want to check before I put in a feature request to
apple, as turning through lots of rotor options is a bit slow I want them
all on there but it would be better if it could be better at predicting what
options I might want based on where the voice over focus is.
Many Thanks, Lee
Many Thanks, Lee
Many Thanks,
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Aser Tolentino
Sent: 11 November 2013 11:40
To: [email protected]
Cc: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?
That's a fair bit of hyperbole: iOS4 only ever got up to 4.35 and no iOS
since has gone beyond a variant of x.1. The way Apple does these things
appears to have changed, much like Android in the last two years in the far
less incremental introduction of features, as much for the psychological
impact as attendant promotion of stability it seems. As flippant as it
usually sounds, "it's a feature not a bug," often seems to be the correct
interpretation of many of people's complaints. Human engineering is tricky,
since it often involves shaping or accounting for people's behavior without
them being aware of it. I for one have gotten quite used to iOS 7. And
things people complain about like the change in the now playing info have
actually come in handy. The approach of trying to figure out why things have
changed I think is far preferable to the assumption that something has gone
wrong. Of course, Apple explaining all of these things would be even better;
but as the incomplete accessibility implementation on things like iBooks in
OSX 10.9 tends to suggest, components of OS development are likely working
down to the wire and so that is just another thing that members of the
accessibility team think would be nice to have, like being able to see more
of their families or get a full night's sleep. Sorry for the rant, but I
hate to think how often something someone thought about and worked hard on
prompts people to write in and loudly and indignantly proclaim it's broken
and demand a fix, rather than simply, and maybe even politely, report their
difficulty and express their preference for how things used to be.
Respectfully,
Aser Tolentino, Esq.
On Nov 11, 2013, at 2:52, "RobH." <[email protected]> wrote:
I observe that we are still on 7.0.3, the bit of interest being the 0. I
think 4 got up to 4.5.something, can't remember what 6 got up to; 6.1.3,
I
still have it; so no Major updates yet, 7.1 should clear all the
current issues, so long as they don't introduce new ones.
RobH, waiting for the new version dust to settle.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne gmail " <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:22 AM
Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously?
Or one can wait a while and IOS 7 will get better. IOS 6 started with
bugs and ended up butterflies because each update included fixes and
improvements. I'll bet that was true of the $4,000 Android phone as well.
After all it depends on the Android operating system which is
relatively new to accessibility and shows it.
I can easily recall picking up the phone, dialing the operator, and
telling her the long distance number I wanted to reach and waiting
while she connected me. We tended to hold our analog watches where we
could see them because the long distance charges per minute could
quickly mount into serious money. For me, I think IOS 7 is really
great<smile>!
Regards,
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 5:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?
Ok, go to American Printing House for the Blind, www.aph.org and check
out their braille android phone. I believe the cost is around $4000.
It is a phone specifically developed for the blind. It's specific
functions work well for the blind. You have your wish answered. Enjoy
your $4000 Android phone.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 11 Nov 2013, at 1:40, [email protected] wrote:
This is very frustrating. Hordes of emails have circulated with the
many
shortcomings of IOS7. Many bugss and shortcomings that have appeared
in ver
7 that were not in IOS6.
It becomes very frustrating when even the basic phone functions are
compromised.
1. Ending calls is a pain. Countless times I thought I had ended the
call
but it was active. This has lead to embarrassing situations and also a
drain on my wallet due to large long distance call charges.
2. When I get phone numbers in a text message, I should be able to
call or
message or store the number with a tap. No! I could do it with my 6
year old Nokia better.
3. Entering data in a web form has become a nightmare. With my
previous
phones running Talks I could do much better. I pay 10 times to get a
iphone and guess what? I can do less with it! Very frustrating.
This list could go on and on. . . . New models will launch, new IOS
versions will roll out. . . But the shortcomings and bugs will stick
with us. Technology for the sake of technology. But no technology for
the visually challenged. Wish someone would charge more but make a
phone that works. With IOS7 AND IPHONE all one can do is pull ones
hair out, welcome to a bald world populated with buggy iphones!
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