Cara,
Maybe I wasn't clear. When I was talking about sending text I meant that it would send a question which one could type into a text box rather than recording it in one's own voice. One could of course then use Dictation to quickly record a short question as in most cases the question would be short. In my thinking this might be a better option than recording a question like what VizWiz does since a short snipped of text would be transmitted a lot faster than a piece of audio. I think if Tap Tap See had a picker box with certain well thought out questions like "What information is displayed on this LED screen", "Who is the sender of this letter/package" or "What colour is this piece of clothing" etc. in addition to a text field it's usefulness and the quality of the results would be greatly increased. Take cjare, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 7:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: a tap tapt see rant Hi Sieghard, Let me just say that the ability to send text, since the app is already sending an image, is basically trivial. Now this does not address how the back end that the app uses deals with the text sent or if it can actually receive anything but images. However, as far as sending text from an app is concerned, it's basically super easy. :) I really feel that one point is almost being missed here, which is that if there is a question field for the customer, sure, images may still come back with no usable results, but at least the customer can be alerted to this and why this has happened, (I.E. image is too dark, or no clear text in image etc.) so the customer can more easily correct any issues. So in this respect I completely agree with Kay here. This app's main purpose is too assist blind and visually impaired people. If these are the concerns that are important to this population then the app does need to address these concerns, or at least attempt to. As you say, perhaps Tap Tap See is in fact addressing these concerns, so we'll see. Just my thoughts and thanks as always for some well-thought-out messages! :) Smiles, Cara :) On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Jerry, I think a lot of people still find Tap Tap See useful, get good information and don't mind the fact that sometimes what comes back is not perfect. The fact is that Tap Tap See occurs the cost of the image recognition whether the information is what you want or maybe even if the information you want is in your photo. Anyhow, Tap Tap See is one of several apps out there and you make the choice as to whether you want to use it or maybe I should say you choose whether it's worth it to you to buy credits. If not, there is Camfind, Digit-Eyes, Red Laser, Talking Googles and others most of which are free or can be purchased with a one-time payment. I think it's unfair to claim Tap Tap See isn't doing anything to add the ability to ask a question or to complain the feature is not yet there. Why don't we wait another 4 or 6 months, if it's not there then maybe it's OK to complain. Regards, Sieghard From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@ <http://googlegroups.com/> googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfJerry Mader Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 8:26 PM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: a tap tapt see rant Yes, I agree, I as well have stopped buying credit for this app. I'm not going to buy credit for a product that doesn't help me find the information I need. We have to have the ability to ask a question or at least type one. Tap Tap See isn't giving out the information any longer as well as it used to after the purchasing of credits came into the picture. Something needs to be done here, because I'm not wasting money on something, that I can't use, and I'm sure many would agree with me. And every time we click a picture, if it gets answered, there goes another credit, even if the answer is wrong. This isn't right. Somehow if we get the information wrong we should be able to somehow make tap-tap-see aware of this and they should refund the credit back to us in my opinion. It just isn't right for us to have to pay for something that plainly isn't doing anything to help figure out what we're looking at. Wasn't this the ap's purpose anyway? At least that's how I perceived the description of it. Thanks Jerry Mader From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@ <http://googlegroups.com/> googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 11:16 PM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: a tap tapt see rant Yes, but the ability to ask questions has already been put to the fine people at TTS and still nothing as of yet. That is not to say it isn't being worked on. I don't care how small or stupid to some people a fortune is, not everybody is going to want the same things from an app. It has done me many favors and read some really neat things to me but it seems more and more as though it is not doing the job expected. Several months ago, if I took a picture of a fortune cookie paper, which I had done, it would be read the first time. This is not the case any more. I have meat in my freezer which I buy by the side and by the pig and It does not have bar codes on it and just has labels that have to be read. TTS Used to get these right on the first try and this is not the case any more. I have to resort to CamFind to get the job done any more and nothing has changed I might add. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:robinn...@gmail.com> Robin Frost To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 9:44 PM Subject: Re: a tap tapt see rant Hi, I write the following in humility and with the utmost respect. While I too have always been a proponent of an ask a specific question feature and think it certainly could serve only to enhance the usefulness and efficiency of the app for all users, it seems to me that your reaction in this instance might be a bit unfair. After all given the scope of the information the app delivers to recognizers at this juncture they did give accurate information based on that which they had available to them. You know what they say about assuming (smile). We can't assume that what we wish to know is obvious to them any more than they could or necessarily should assume that they can deduce exactly that you wanted the actual text of the fortune. In truth I'm amazed that it came out clearly enough for someone to eventually recognize for you. Again I'm not disagreeing that an ask a specific question via text feature in the app isn't greatly longed for and perhaps necessary to enhance its usefulness. I'm just saying that I'm glad your rant was first directed at us as opposed to them (smile). Perhaps when the heat of the moment has dissipated a request for such a feature and explanation of how it could only benefit both users of the app and those who recognize images might be easier for you to send their way. Just my two cents no one asked for and no one is obligated to live by. Robin From: <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> Kay Malmquist Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 10:33 PM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: a tap tapt see rant I need to write this to the people at Tap Tap See, but right now I am anything but constructive. For some odd reason I love to know what my fortune cookie says. So I started tap tap see and took a picture. first come back was, "fortune cookie paper". Brilliant deduction Sherlock. I am blind not dense. Next came back with numbers. Oops! wrong side so I flip it over. Then next I get, "white paper with black text". No kidding! Next I finally am treated to the actual fortune. Now I had another one stuffed in my jacket pocket so I decided since I was in picture wasting mode I might as well try for more. First was fortune cookie paper, then text on white paper, then numbers, my bad again, turn it over. Then back to same stuff different side. Finally, the words I had been waiting to hear. all in all, 11 pictures wasted before outcome is achieved. I have paid for 100 pictures and feel this is a huge rip off. If I had a way to ask even though in this case I don't feel I should have to state the obvious, A lot of time and wasted effort could have been eliminated. Any thoughts anybody? Kay Malmquist <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing <mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting <http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing <mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting <http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing <mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting <http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing <mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting <http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing <mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting <http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> . Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com> . Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
