Here's the thing: VoiceOver speaks the character you pass, whereas Windows screen readers always speak the character to the left of the cursor, I believe. Let's trace an example to make this clearer:
Say we have the word "iPhone" and, for whatever reason, we want to erase the "i" at the beginning of it. Change your rotor to characters, and flick up; you will be moved backward, character by character: i, n, o, h, capital p, i. VO tells you the character it passes, and because you are moving backward, it is being placed on the left of the characters is speaks. That is, if you hit delete once you reach the i, you will delete the space before the word; VO told you "i" as it passed the i, moving left, so the cursor is now between the space and the i. To erase that i, you'd either stop at the p, so the cursor is between it and the i, or you'd move right one character. In the latter case, VO will say "i" again as it once more passes the i, this time moving right. Since it spoke the i as it moved forward, you can be confident that deleting will take out the i; again, the cursor is now between the i and the p. It is very hard to get used to this system if you use Windows screen readers, but the Mac is set up the same way. Honestly, I now find it much more sensible to do things this way, and Windows gets me all confused. Apple reports the true position of the cursor (which characters it is between) rather than always the character to one side. This is closer to the way the cursor looks visually, and it is a much easier way to track where you are. It takes getting used to, but you will eventually have an 'ah ha" moment and come to love this method. At least I did. :) On May 28, 2014, at 8:20 AM, isaac <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes I am noticing that too. I don't think you can delete a space when using > the rotor you have to delete the previous character before you can delete the > space. > isaac > [email protected] > Skype gold_wildcat > > On May 26, 2014, at 10:12 PM, bhavesh dhanak <[email protected]> wrote: > >> hi frnds, i m facing difficulty in edditing: >> sometimes it deletes the character which voice over speaks, sometimes >> the previous 1. >> Example: >> i phone >> now if i wonna remove space after i, and i go to p, then it deletes p, >> sometimes space. >> Pls guide me, and explain me how d edditing works... >> Thx chears! >> >> On 5/26/14, Penny Reeder <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Set your roter to characters (or words if it's a really long message) >>> and swipe through the message until you get to the part you want to >>> edit. Then, if you set the roter to words, change it to characters, >>> and continue swiping through the part you want to edit. Use the delete >>> key to delete what you don't want, or just insert the new text where >>> you want it by typing it in. Editing can take a long time! But, it's >>> possible. >>> Penny >>> >>> On 5/26/14, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> The rotor is the key here, if you don't have a braille or bluetooth >>>> keyboard. Rotate two fingers on the screen until you get to the increment >>>> you want (lines, words, or characters) and then flick up to move back by >>>> that increment, down to move forward. Probably the best way is to move by >>>> line to the area, then by word or character to get exactly where you want >>>> to >>>> edit. Once done, double tap once or twice until VoiceOver says "insertion >>>> point at end" and you're at the bottom, ready to type some more. >>>> On May 25, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Cornelius <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, I am typing quite a long message on my phone, and I need to go >>>>> to >>>>> a certain part to edit back what i've type. >>>>> How do I do that? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>>> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >>>>> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >>>>> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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