Google Maps, Apple Maps, Seeing Eye GPS, Ariadne, Around Me, and most other GPS based apps on the iPhone constantly pull data over mobile data connection on the iOS device. Therefore, they only work with iPhone and iPad with 3G. For most of these apps, the data stream is rather minimal, so the data cost is not very high.
Navigon and TomTom store the maps on the iDevice. Therefore, these apps require much more space, and are more expensive than the others, save for Seeing Eye, which because it is marketed exclusively to the blind, is extremely expensive even though it uses internet maps and data connection rather than saving the map on one's device. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Jun 2014, at 15:45, "Victor Gouveia" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Alex, You may be right in the case of Blind Square, but I'm not sure > you're right about Google Maps, or Seeing Eye GPS though because this would > make the particular apps expensive to use, and therefore not at all viable > for the majority of the blind public. > > I would think that only the GPS components use out and about features, and > not necessarily the map data, but I may be wrong. > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Alex Hall > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 11:39 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: just one question > > That is true of many in-car systems, yes. The apps for iOS work differently, > though. Some do let you download map files ahead of time, such as Google > Maps, but others need a constant or semi-constant data connection, including > Blindsquare and (if I'm not mistaken) Seeing Eye GPS. >> On Jun 9, 2014, at 11:34 PM, Victor Gouveia <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Alex Said: >> >> Second, the iPad with an external receiver will do GPS, but most >> mapping/navigation apps need to pull map data from some server or other, >> necessitating a data connection. >> >> *** >> >> No, even standard GPS devices purchased for drivers don't pull map data from >> servers out and about, they are usually updated manually over the internet >> via a Wi-Fi connection, or, if you have a data connection, depending on how >> large the map update file is. >> >> Either way, the GPS receiver is just to ping off a satellite or tower to >> help the GPS locate you, the maps are a separate feature. >> >> Just thought I'd point that out. >> >> Victor Gouveia >> Vice-President >> Training Coordinator >> VIP Tech >> Tel: 1-888-640-6661 >> Fax: 1-888-640-6669 >> Home: [email protected] >> Work: [email protected] >> Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Alex Hall >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 11:15 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: just one question >> >> First, if you don't need the cellular option but you still want the >> portability, go for an iPod Touch. It has the power of an iPhone5 (well, >> slightly better actually) but is also wifi-only, while being the size of an >> iPhone instead of a larger iPad Mini or full iPad. >> >> Second, the iPad with an external receiver will do GPS, but most >> mapping/navigation apps need to pull map data from some server or other, >> necessitating a data connection. So, if phone calls, texting (not with >> iMessage), anywhere internet access for navigation and other apps, and GPS >> is your thing, do the iPhone. Otherwise, choose between the iPad and iPod >> Touch, depending on how much you want to spend and how large a device you >> want. Also remember that we have the iPad Mini in the mix. Good luck! <smile> >>> On Jun 9, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Victor Gouveia <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Peter, >>> >>> I also think it would be worth noting that unless you get the iPad with 3G >>> support, the iPad doesn't make you pay a certain amount per month, as it >>> only works on Wi-Fi, and not a data connection through a carrier. >>> >>> So, if you take this into account when doing the calculations... >>> >>> an iPad and iPhone are roughly the same price, keep in mind that I'm >>> referring to the Wi-Fi version of the iPad, not the 3G version. >>> >>> The costs are roughly the same, give or take a hundred bucks or so, but >>> when getting the iPhone, your carrier will charge you anywhere from 30 to >>> 50 dollars per month, so your paying 30 to 50 dollars per month in addition >>> to the iPhone's already inflated price. >>> >>> Even if you get it on a contract, most carriers will insist you get the >>> iPhone on a 2 year contract, so you can expect to pay anywhere from 199 to >>> 350 for the phone, plus another 30 to 50 dollars per month for twenty-four >>> months, and you're looking at paying an extra 700 to 1200 dollars on top of >>> what you paid for the phone. >>> >>> In addition to this, some carriers will charge you to unlock your phone at >>> the end of your contract, and this could cost you another 30 to 75 dollars, >>> at which point, you can now do what your iPad has done all along. >>> >>> In any case, if you're budget conscious, then the iPad would be the way to >>> go, at which point, if you want to use the iPad as a navigation device, >>> you'll have to spend a little more for the external GPS receiver, but even >>> then, it still comes out cheaper than the iPhone. >>> >>> Keep in mind that the above are based on what I know about the major >>> carriers in Canada and the US, but I doubt the pricing is much different in >>> other areas. >>> >>> >>> >>> Victor Gouveia >>> Vice-President >>> Training Coordinator >>> VIP Tech >>> Tel: 1-888-640-6661 >>> Fax: 1-888-640-s6669 >>> Home: [email protected] >>> Work: [email protected] >>> Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Alex Hall >>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 5:54 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: just one question >>> >>> This question comes up from time to time, so the archives will have a lot >>> of information. Basically, though, the pros of an iPad over an iPhone are: >>> >>> * better battery life >>> * better sound, sometimes, and that is rather subjective >>> * larger screen, for low-vision users using magnification >>> * larger screen, showing more content for apps and webpages, which can >>> sometimes be useful to the blind >>> >>> That's all I can think of. Of course, the pros of the iPhone or iPod Touch >>> outweigh the pros of the larger iPad, at least for me, but each person's >>> situation is different. >>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Peter Logue <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi guys, >>>> Okay here's the question. If the Ipad and the Iphone both do exactly the >>>> same thing, only for the fact that the Iphone makes phone calls... why >>>> would >>>> anyone not choose the Iphone. >>>> I'm torn, but leaning to the Iphone, even though it has a contract. But >>>> dollar for dollar pound for pound. 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