On 30 Jun 2014, at 19:02, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
If Alex was only possible on devices with the 64 Bit processor this
would
mean that the iPhone 4S and 5 which don't have the A7 chip would not
get the
Alex voice. While this is possible I somehow don't think it likely.
Regards,
Sieghard
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
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Of Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to
Droid
I was going to speculate that we may start seeing 64 bit only features
in iOS 8 such as the Alex voice. Just speculation.
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu
On 30/06/2014 03:10, Alex Hall wrote:
The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what
allows
for advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how Apple's
new
graphics engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I understand
it,
what will let the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As iOS8 comes
out and
gets updated, you will start to see more that the A7 (that is, 64-bit)
processors and beyond can do which older devices cannot.
Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to
register or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge
and it
doesn't register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it just an
artifact of the way the input system works, though, and I'd challenge
anyone, sighted or not, to find a touch interpretation system meant
to be
used all the time that always works perfectly. I briefly tried
Android, and
those crazy corner gestures were hard to get right, for instance.
The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching
to it.
Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language, or
maybe it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the
string
as another language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS doing
its
best to present foreign languages in their proper voices, since it
assumes
that this is better than presenting everything in English and
letting you
try to figure out what an English pronunciation of a language you
speak is
trying to say. I'd love there to be a toggle somewhere to turn this
off,
since, as you said, it can get annoying if languages are improperly
tagged
or detected, but it's not a bug per se.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Eric Brinkman <[email protected]>
wrote:
Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is
noticeable from a user's perspective?
As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic
recently. When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls,
but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without
scrolling. This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists,
particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at
this point. Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as
though text were written in a different language. I used to think
this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while
reading the subject of a message from Linked In. Jaws used to do
this
randomly on certain websites as well. For GPS I mainly use Seeing
Eye
at this point. I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but prefer to
have all functions in one app.
I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the
voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good.
On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also
consider
the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice accessibility
additions
to what's available on stock Android. You might want to check out
some
Android specific mailing lists first as well. You'll be getting the
latest on Android.
On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a
pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will
sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.
For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure
that
you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith
means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the
motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some
accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems
can be
resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve.
Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an
androy
phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor itself.
You can
have a cheap octa core (8 core) processor on an androy phone, but
running on the speed of the dual processor.
On 30/06/2014, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> wrote:
I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone
5, I
still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my
phone at about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave
the
mail, weather, messages, find my iPhone and local newspaper
apps open
in the task manager.
Everything else is closed. I don't use my iPhone for
navigation, audio
streaming, reading, music listening to music or other
activities on my
way to work.
Kelly
On 6/29/14, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, exactly. Android is a good OS, and plenty of blind people
make
it
work
well for them, but switching just because your older phone is
having
battery
problems makes little sense. Given all that iOS8 will bring, and
given
all
the programming announcements at WWDC this year, and the
advances the
iPhone5S brought with it that everyone else is now copying
(fingerprint
authentication and 64-bit processors), I'm always amazed when
people
say
Apple is declining,or not innovating, or in trouble. Wait for
iOS8
and
the
iPhone6 and see if Android still looks like a better option.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi Alex,
You make a very good point about battery size in larger phones.
Apple
has
been slow I adopting a larger screen size, but we all know
that the
iPhone
6 will come in at least something like a 4.7 inch and maybe
also a
5.5
inch version. In the past Apple has been accused of not
innovating
any
more, but of course sticking a larger screen on a phone can
hardly
be
called innovation.
Going bac to the issue of battery, the Galaxy S5 which has a 5.1
inch
screen and is significantly larger than the iPhone 5S, has a
2800
MAH
battery which is almost twice as big as that of the 5S. Yes, of
course
they get better battery life out of such a large battery and
it's
unfortunate that you will inevitably find articles comparing the
iPhone
5S
battery life with that of the Galaxy S5. Of course that would be
like
comparing 2 similar cars, one with a 20 Gallon tank and one
with a
40
Gallon tank, of course you will be able to go further with
the car
that
has a 40 Gallon tank, but being able to put more fuel in it
doesn't
necessarily make it a better vehicle.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering
switching to
Droid
I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7.
However,
Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them,
even
though
I didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware
fault in
my
battery somewhere which is causing problems with fast
draining. As
was
said, the battery is now one and a half years old and I use it
constantly,
so I'm not too surprised.
I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before
switching.
Maybe
rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's
return
policy
is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be
interested to
see
how
the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the
iPhone6
will
very probably have a larger screen, which means a larger
battery.
Many
Android devices can offer longer battery lives simply because
they
are
already bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more raw
power to
use.
Finally, if battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8
won't
make
a huge jump in battery?
Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that
Android is
very
different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and
shortcomings
you
need to know about before you start relying on it full time. No
company
is
perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are.
Just be
sure
you aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with
Android.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi Eric,
I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better
battery
life.
I also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS
7 are
and
of
course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not
Apple's
fault.
As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have
with SIRI
putting in the word comma when I want it to put in the
punctuation.
According to what they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8
will
be
much
more responsive and while there are some Android fanboys on this
list,
I
would highly recommend that you find a way to try Android
before you
commit to a high-end Android phone on a 2-year contract.
I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell
coverage
definitely will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to
connect
and
communicate with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote
rural
area
in
northern British Columbia and his is the same experience;
however,
if
he
is in town with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you
also
have
to keep in mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was
released
that
the battery is now one and a half years old and any rechargeable
battery
degrades with time.
Regards,
Sieghard
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From:
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Of Eric Brinkman
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching
to Droid
As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the
battery
life
on
my iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely
unacceptable.
I
have read MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and
followed
their
suggestions, but I am still lucky to have over 30% charge
after a
trip
to
NYC. If I don't put the phone into airplane mode while at
work or
bring
a
charger to the office, I will have 20% or less by the time I
leave.
And
i
don't even use my phone at work.
There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a
problem
until recent months. I think it's due to the walls, as I am on
Verizon
and have no issues when outside. If I stay with IOS, I will
buy a
juice
pack when I upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall. But there are so
many
bugs
in the latest IOS that I wonder whether I might be better off on
Android.
The dictation feature seems to have gotten less smart since
IOS 7.1,
often
typing the word comma when I want a comma punctuation indicator.
There
are so many bugs with Facebook and VO that I could easily
spend five
paragraphs detailing them. Also, I really don't think I
should need
to
buy a juice pack, as I didn't have much of an issue with the
battery
life
prior to IOS 7. These issues are the result of Apple rushing
products
out
the door before they are ready, something that's been
crippling the
company ever since the IOS
6 Maps debacle. Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said
I'll
never
switch to Droid, but now I'm not so sure. Does anyone on
this list
know
what the situation is on Droid concerning GPS and accessibility?
The
last
time I heard, good screen-reading software was available but I
wasn't
sure
about GPS. I have heard that now Google's dictation
functionality
is
in
many ways smarter than Siri.
Is battery life far superior on the top-of-the-line Droid
phones as
well?
Thanks in advance.
Eric
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