Part of the problem, as I see it, is the language parsing. Fantastical can break up full sentences into appointment names, locations, times, repeat intervals, and so on. Localization is just the translating of strings, so that the string used to display information is in the right language. However, figuring out the information from what the user types is an entirely different story, as it requires a deep understanding of the language in question. Of course it is possible, but if the makers of Fantastical are English speakers, I can see why translation for them would be much harder than the more basic translation that most other apps go through. They aren't just localizing, they have to make their app *understnad* what the user is typing in as well. On Jul 29, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com> wrote:
> Krister, > I don't think you are being picky at all. I am an all too common US citizen > who only speaks English. Once upon a time I received a degree that said I was > fluent in German, but that was a very long time ago and I've forgotten most > of what I once knew. I have tremendous respect for people like yourself and > so many others on this list who can converse in more than one language. > It seems to me that the developers of Fantastical are being a bit lazy. > Ilkka, who wrote Blind Square has it localized in many languages, as is > Aeriadne GPS, Chess-Wise 3 I think and probably lots more. > I think I will write Ilkka and ask how much work is involved in localizing an > app and pass his answer on to Flexibits. > Take care, > Richard > > > "Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." - Victor Hugo > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 29, 2014, at 2:48 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> > wrote: > >> Am i being picky or something? The reason i ask this question is that i have >> heard so many good things about Fantastical but i don't like the fact that i >> have to type in english to make the calendar app work, worse yet, i wrote to >> the support and they said that they thought it would be a difficult and time >> consuming task to localize Fantastical into other languages so the question >> i want to ask here is are there any non-english speakers who actually prefer >> Fantastical over their built-in calendar and for what reason? >> I want to try the app but feel reluctant for the same reason i don't use >> Siri, which only is available in English and a couple more other languages >> but not Swedish. In Apples case i don't like that they do strictly >> anglocentric features but, and this is a rettorical question so no need to >> answer:-) but should one be as strict when it comes to things like >> Fantastical? What if Siri becomes available in Swedish but Fantastical >> doesn't? >> /Krister >> >>> 28 jul 2014 kl. 22:37 skrev Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com>: >>> >>> Other than the custom repeat function that's very useful in many ways like >>> "repeat for 8 times every week", I also love the search feature. >>> Every once in a while the native calendar would garble the order of search >>> results for a repeating event and it would make it useless for me. This >>> never happens in fantastical. >>> I like how, using natural language one can set where one wants the event to >>> be added. Say it is not in your default calendar but a separate one you >>> indicate this in the sentence with slash followed by first letter of that >>> calendar. /h for home for example. >>> >>> Same goes for reminder lists. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> Ioana >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Aside from the natural language, is there an advantage to using >>>> Fantastical over iOS' default Calendar app? I find Calendar easy enough to >>>> use, and have never really had problems with it. It's not the best, but >>>> it's fine. I guess I'm wondering what features people like about >>>> Fantastical that make it worth it? Also, will Fantastical hook into iOS' >>>> calendars? That is, if I make an appointment with it, will that then sync >>>> to iOS, and from there propagate through iCloud to sync with my Mac's >>>> default calendar app? >>>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Jenny. Great to hear the app works great probably going to check >>>>> it out. >>>>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I love this app! I also can put a reminder in this app and it will come >>>>>> up on my computer. I have a windows computer, and i don't know if the >>>>>> Mac is accesssible or not. I heard no. >>>>>> >>>>>> I like this update because it has keyboard shortcuts. They work >>>>>> wonderful also. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jenn >>>>>> >>>>>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD! >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just noticed Fantastical was updated again and now half price. I have >>>>>>> heard mixed on this app from the VoiceOver community, but am thinking >>>>>>> about finally buying it, wanted to see what people here thought of it. >>>>>>> I rarely use the calendar app on the iPhone as it is kind of a pain to >>>>>>> use, are people finding it much smoother to use the fantastical >>>>>>> calendar? I do use reminders a lot but I like being able to just hold >>>>>>> in the button to quickly launch Siri to create a reminder. I assume >>>>>>> using the reminder part of Fantastical will just take launching the app >>>>>>> first, but is just as easy? Also I read that the mac version is not as >>>>>>> accessible with VO. 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