Hi Arnold,

Perhaps I am being as paranoid as you are but I wouldn't do it. If the
charger was not designed for that battery, we know that fast charging causes
overheating and, I fear, would certainly damage the battery in the short or
medium term. 

Ron & Danvers


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think
I'm Beginning to Like It

Perhaps I am just being paranoid, but I wonder if one uses a more powerful
charger than was designed for the battery more than occasionally, such as an
iPad charger to charge an iPhone, wouldn't it shorten the life of the
battery?  Being that I am told that it costs almost a hundred dollars to get
the battery replaced in an iPhone, I don't want it to go bad any sooner than
necessary.

Arnold Schmidt
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From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Superfast charging Battery was: The iCloud Keychain, I Think
I'm Beginning to Like It


If you're looking forr a fast charging method, I have heard from a friend
that has several chargers that an iPad charger will charge the phone's
battery in about an hour. Granted, the iPad charger is normally used to
charge a much larger tablet than the iPhone, but it sounds like it could
work. Perhaps someone else can comment that has an iPad and has charged
their phone before with its charger.

Best,
Wayne

On 8/22/14, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> Hi Kawal,
>
> I remember reading about this battery and just read another review on 
> Mashable. I think the battery is the "Ultrapack" by "UNU". My 
> interpretation of this "15 minutes rapid charging" is that it is the 
> external battery itself which can charge in 15 minutes and not that it 
> can charge up the phone in 15 minutes. Sorry if this may disappoint 
> you, but I believe the selling point was that if you are out and about 
> and your phone is running low and your battery is running low than as 
> long as you have 15 minutes somewhere you can quickly charge up your 
> battery and then keep on running around while your newly charged 
> battery is doing its job charging up your phone at the usual speed. 
> Here is what it says in the article:
>
> UNU's Ultrapak is a battery pack for smartphones and tablets that can 
> deliver a full charge to devices after just 15 minutes of charging 
> itself up. This means that as long as users are carrying their 
> Ultrapak, and can spare at least a quarter of an hour, they'll never 
> have to worry about running out of power again.
> UNU said the Ultrapak's super-fast charging is due to "Ultra-X" 
> charging technology, a special type of A+ lithium polymer battery that 
> uses proprietary additives, which increases the normal battery 
> charging speed by
> 8 times. This makes the device "the world's fastest self-charging 
> battery pack," according to UNU.
>
> The term "self-charging" is also an interesting choice of words and I 
> think misleading. Not sure what it is supposed to mean since you still 
> have to plug the battery into a wall outlet to charge it just like any 
> other external battery.
> According to what they say in this excerpt above it is the special 
> battery Unu uses which allows it to charge so fast. The iPhone does 
> not have such a battery and how fast the iPhone battery itself can be 
> charged up is determined by the battery and charging circuits and 
> safeguards Apple uses.
> What is not mentioned in the article is how many times one can charge 
> up this external battery before it starts to degrade and I wonder if 
> these super rapid charging technologies are actually beneficial to the 
> overall longevity of a battery.
>
> I can see how such super fast charging is useful on a small battery 
> like for example their 3,000 MAH model. This can only fully charge an 
> almost empty iPhone once or maybe a bit more than once and if you were 
> out and about for say 10 hours and are using GPS all the time then 
> maybe starting with a full charge and being able to charge up once is 
> not enough. However, I also think this is a mute point if you have a 
> larger battery like maybe a 12,000 or
> 15,000 MAH battery which can charge your iPhone 4 to 6 times. There is 
> no way you would not have enough power with such a battery even if you 
> ran the GPS for 12 hours straight while talking on the phone for 
> hours, downloading large files and using all the battery drainage 
> tricks in the book. Then what does it matter if it takes 2 or 3 hours 
> to recharge your big internal battery since you can plug it in over 
> night once you get home or back to your hotel or whatever.
> The company is charging quite a premium for their 2 batteries as well. 
> The article mentions the 3,000 MAH is $59.99 and the 10,000 MAH is 
> $99.99. I can buy an Anker 3,000 MAH on Amazon.com for $19.99 and a 
> 10,000 MAH for $25.99.
> If I really want power Anker has their new second Gen Astro Pro2 
> 20,000 MAH battery on Amazon.com for $79.99.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 1:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It
>
> That's why you need that new Battery that I ordered recently, it 
> charges your phone in 15 minutes. You will find the details in the
archives.
>
> Kawal.
>
>> On 22 Aug 2014, at 02:40 am, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, Mac computers have their strength, but Windows has caught up 
>> with some of the conveniences in many ways. If you use something like 
>> an Outlook.com account for contacts, email and calendars and OneDrive 
>> for documents the I think you would have much the same experience as 
>> Christopher said. Mind you some of the new continuity stuff that is 
>> coming with Yosemity and iOS 8 is probably beyond what is available 
>> in Windows, but then in some cases too much integration and all that 
>> could also have drawbacks. I already heard that new features like 
>> handoff in iOS 8 wil l of course mean more battery drainage as your 
>> iDevice constantly communicates with other compatible devices nearby.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 5:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The iCloud Keychain, I Think I'm Beginning to Like It
>>
>> I recently bought my wife a new laptop running Windows 8. We created 
>> a Microsoft account for her and did some setup before deciding to 
>> return that laptop and get a more powerful model. When we setup the 
>> new laptop the experience was almost exactly what you described 
>> below. We entered her Microsoft account information, a pass code was 
>> sent to her email and when she entered that passcode into her new 
>> Windows machine, her account was setup, her email was configured, her 
>> apps were downloaded
> and so on.
>>
>>> On 08/21/2014 01:35 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I am the proud new owner of a MacBook Pro with Retina Display.
>>>
>>> One of my greatest concerns, being a Windows user, was the 
>>> difficulty I would encounter transferring the contents including 
>>> passwords and system preferences from my old MacBook to the new one.
>>>
>>> Now I have used the Migration Assistant in the past, when assisting
>> friends,
>>> but not without some minor problems said problems including 
>>> duplicated
>> user
>>> account errors, etc.
>>>
>>> Before purchasing the new Mac, I decided to configure and enable the 
>>> keychain on both my iPhone and my old Mac.
>>>
>>> I would be lying if I stated that I totally understand all of the 
>>> nuances
>> of
>>> the keychain but, somewhere along the line I must have enabled 
>>> security authorization from my iPhone.
>>>
>>> As a result, during the setup process on the new Mac, I was asked to 
>>> enter my iCloud keychain security code.  Upon doing this, I was sent 
>>> a verification code via SMS to my iPhone.  Upon entering this 
>>> verification code into the new Mac, everything, and I mean 
>>> everything was configured as it was on the old Mac.
>>>
>>> The migration was flawless and, unlike on my beloved Microsoft 
>>> Windows, painless as well.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>
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