I didn't know that, thanks. I'll open iTunes in a moment and do that, it sounds 
perfect. that way iCloud continues to be m primary, but I have a full backup, 
including passwords and other details, safely stored locally.
On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:

> You can only have automatic backups set to either iCloud or iTunes, but you 
> can always do a manual backup. I have automatic backups set to use iCloud, 
> but I periodically go in and perform a manual encrypted backup to my PC using 
> iTunes.
> 
> On 08/23/2014 09:17 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Thank you, that helps. My only other question: will enabling local
>> backups do anything to iCloud? As I recall, you have to choose one or
>> the other, you can't do both at once. I've relied soely on iCloud
>> backups for years, so maybe this has changed and I missed it.
>> On Aug 23, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> I would do an encrypted backup via iTunes and restore from it when
>>> your iPhones come back.
>>> 
>>> It is not recommended to restore an iPhone backup to an iPod Touch.
>>> Yes, both devices run iOS, but the hardware is very different and
>>> according to Apple "*Restoring an iPhone backup to an iPod touch may
>>> result in unexpected behavior on the iPod touch (such as the device
>>> resetting repeatedly)."*
>>> 
>>> **
>>> 
>>> *Here is a short article where this comes from and while the support
>>> article is from 2009, I have seen newere references that this is still
>>> the same.*
>>> 
>>> **
>>> 
>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2624?viewlocale=en_US
>>> As for restoring your iPhone 5 backup to an iPhone 4 this should not
>>> be a problem.
>>> Also, Mark recently replied to one of my posts where I mentioned the
>>> encrypted backup and he pointed out that in his opinion a regular
>>> backup also backed up passwords and all of the same information. This
>>> is, however, not the case. The main difference between a regular and
>>> an encrypted backup si that the encrypted backup also backs up your
>>> keychain and allows it to be restored to a different device. If you
>>> don't encrypt the backup the keychain will restore to the same device,
>>> but not to a new device. Mark, if you read this I suggest you start
>>> using the encrypted backup option especially since you said you are
>>> starting to like how keychain works. If you get a new iPhone at some
>>> point and you don't encrypt your backup you'll not get that data
>>> restored. Here is an Apple support article which explains in detail
>>> what is backed up and what is not:
>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4946
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> *From:*[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[mailto:[email protected]]*On
>>> Behalf Of*Alex Hall
>>> *Sent:*Saturday, August 23, 2014 6:17 AM
>>> *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:*A Few Backup Questions
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'll be taking advantage of the recently announced program to get a
>>> free battery replacement for my iPhone5. There's no Apple Store
>>> nearby, though, so I'll be sending my device to Apple and will
>>> therefore be without it for up to ten days. My mother, who got her
>>> phone at the same time I did, will be doing the same thing. I have an
>>> iPod Touch I can use; if we take turns, we can each use the Touch
>>> while our phones are away, and activate an old flip phone for actually
>>> making phone calls and texting non-iCloud people. All that said, here
>>> are my questions regarding backing up our phones, and later, getting
>>> them back.
>>> 1. Can an iPhone5 iCloud backup be restored to the iPod Touch? That
>>> way whoever is using the iPod can have their apps and data without
>>> having to manually download everything.
>>> 2. Is there anything special about backing up with iTunes, or will an
>>> iCloud backup be fine for restoring when the iPhones come back?
>>> 3. There's a chance I can use an iPhone4 instead of the iPod. Will
>>> backups work on that (see question 1)?
>>> 4. Is there anything else I need to know about backups for this situation?
>>> Thanks for any help/information anyone can offer. I'll send a separate
>>> email soon with details on the battery replacement program for anyone
>>> interested.
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