Talking about privacy and what to download and install. I recently help a friend to download and install Google Chrome on a pc laptop. Next thing i know, we end up with Google Chrome all right, but we also have Google Sheets, Google Docs, Google Slides, Google Pictures, and Google Drive. Not to say that very annoying Google Toolbar too. So, we ask for 1 but have extra 6 programs/clients for free.
I think, everyone need to acknowledge that, as long as you are on the net, there is no 100% privacy. Apple, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, and basicly you name it, they will collect some sort of user information from you somehow. Doesn't matter you like it or not. That is just the reality of it. Of course, one could argue that you have more control with the Androy platform. But, is that really the case? For me, i don't think so. And that comes from my experience using Androy 4.22, 4.3, and 4.44 platform. On 14/09/2014, Alan Paganelli <[email protected]> wrote: > This is all a tempest in a tea pot. > > > Regards, > > Alan > > Go Chicago Bears in 2014! > > Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!!!!! > Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. > > Please click on: > HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ > There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on > the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my > > website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 7:55 AM > Subject: RE: Where did it come from? > > > I think this was very typical Apple and actually if Steve Jobbs was still > around, he would have totally done this as well. He (Steve Jobbs) always > said people don't know what they want or need and he basically has to tell > them. This is one reason why Apple has never bothered with panels, user > groups and so on, they don't ask the consumer what they think their > products > or services should be like, they create a product or service and tell the > consumer that it's exactly what they need. > > > Regards, > Sieghardor Apple > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Ricardo Walker > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 1:45 AM > To: viphone > Subject: Re: Where did it come from? > > Hi, > > I think this all boils down to choice, and the perception of choice. Where > Apple took a misstep was n taking away some perceived control from the > consumer. It's purely psychological in my opinion. In many ways, being > forced to take something you don't want is emotionally similar to having > something taken away from you. I agree, realistically, this isn't a big > deal, and has little to know tangible effects. But in general, I do think > its bad form. I'm actually a bit surprised to see Apple make a mistake > with > users such as this. > > I mean, if they just had it as a free download in the iTunes store, and had > it on their feature page, none of this would even be an issue. I figured > the marketing people at Apple should have seen this coming. > > Just my 2 cents. :) > > Ricardo Walker > [email protected] > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > >> On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your >> room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions >> to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account >> which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. >> Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the >> fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's >> there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your >> cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. >> OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's >> actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as >> pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to >> your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to >> older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't > it. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Where did it come from? >> >> Hello Sieghard, >> >> My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. >> >> You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it >> graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as > would >> I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : >> You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that >> someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table >> without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the >> free album that I and others object to but the way in which they >> delivered > it. >> >> Mark >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Where did it come from? >> >> I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where >> repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading >> wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album >> because I have iTunes set not to show "purchases in the cloud". I had >> to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which >> point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. >> On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still >> is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync >> selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this >> will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite >> of > space on my phone. >> >> I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving >> them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not >> everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to "you don't look a >> gift horse in the mouth". If somebody gave me that CD physically as a >> present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if >> I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the >> garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from > people's accounts if you don't download it. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Dan Beaver >> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Where did it come from? >> >> I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is >> being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have >> to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. >> >> I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. >> >> Dan Beaver >> >> From: Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Where did it come from? >> >> Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. >> Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it >> takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes >> up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to >> download if you want it. >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Dan Beaver >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Where did it come from? >> >> Hi, >> >> According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes >> you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on >> small memory IPhones. >> >> Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. >> >> Dan Beaver >> >> From: Teresa Cochran >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Where did it come from? >> >> I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It >> was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. >> I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you >> don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your >> iCloud > space, though. >> >> Teresa >> >> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and >> seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks >> >> On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >> Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on >> Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with >> the > album. >> Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes >> that everyone "bought" the album. It was free to everyone, and now >> everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! >> On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I >> didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been >> hacked > somehow? >> Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this >> have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! >> >> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone > list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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