Alex,
Typically the GM release is what is released to the public 8 days later. There are no changes unless a total showstopper is reported like maybe phone calls for all users are getting cut off after 30 seconds or something drastic like that. Having said that Apple is usually quite quick to release minor updates after the official release so let's hope some of the more nasty Voiceover bugs will get squashed soon. Regards, Sieghardsomethi the From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Reminder: we're talking about the GM, not the final release. The NDA still covers all bugs, features, and everything else about iOS8, and there is the chance that Apple will fix the bugs you're reporting by the official release. I'm not a moderator, but talking about this stuff does break Apple's NDA and so is not allowed on this list, as far as I know. On Sep 13, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: It's useable, and iOS 8 is stabil, but you may run into some inconveniences. It's hard for me to tell somebody to go ahead or not because everybody is different. Keep in mind that bluetooth keyboard support is very bad and if you are in the habit of manually dialing phone numbers iOS 8 is a pain in the neck because quite often as you dial one of the numbers just decides to stick and the DialTone goes on and on. As a minimum you have to bring up the app switcher and throw the phone app out, then try again. Prior to the Goldmaster I had to actually totally shut down the phone and reboot in order to stop the DialTone. Regards, sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people complained about last year didn't bother me to much if that says anything. On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that iOS 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like Voiceover saying "Screen Locked" twice which it did for a long time after iOS 7 was released. I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell Apple has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided by blind beta testers. There have been 5 Beta versions and now the Goldmaster and almost all of the most serious and annoying bugs are still there. I hope that they react faster once the public release happens next Wednesday and hopefully blind people start flooding Apple Accessibility with emails and phone calls about these issues. I will post a list of the 5 or so bugs which bug me the most and which I know other beta testers have reported as soon as the iOS 8 update comes out. Anybody who wants to read about them just look for a post on Wednesday, September 17 with subject "The top 5 most annoying bugs in iOS 8 with Voiceover". What bothers me is that a few of these issues are not specifically accessibility related and they don't happen if Voiceover is not running but as soon as Voiceover is on you suddenly are plagued by this and that. Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM To: ViPone list Subject: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Here is a link to an article by Steven Aquino about the accessibility features in iOS 8: http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-fe atures/ Richard "Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." - Victor Hugo Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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