The only Issue I have is with the Safari bug but I’ve found a work around until 
Apple fixes this issue.  I have ios 8 on my ipod touch 5th generation and won’t 
be updating my ipad mini.

From: Alex Hall 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver

I don't use a bluetooth keyboard or display, and I have no major problems. Yes, 
VO crashes more, and sometimes Siri won't work quite right. I'm willing to put 
up with those problems, though, to get the braille input, interactive 
notifications, widgets, predictive typing, and other iOS8 features. It's a 
personal choice, though, and if you don't want the bugs, there's no harm at all 
in waiting.

On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:


  So out of curiosity, what are people's opinions about running iOS 8 on
  an iPhone 5? I have the 5 and haven't updated yet, trying to wait
  until I get the new iPhone 6 hopefully soon.

  Wayne

  On 9/24/14, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> wrote:

    It seems to me that the people who are having crashing problems with
    IOS 8 are those with 4s's. It's very possible that the 4s can't handle
    the requirements of IOS with other apps and Apple shouldn't have
    supported it.

    On 9/24/14, Øyvind Lode <oyv...@lode.is> wrote:

      First of all I must say that I don't regret upgrading my 4s to iOS 8.
      However, VoiceOver crashes all the time on my 4s.
      I have not found a pattern to all the crashes.
      The good thing is that VO at least restarts when it decide to die on me.
      But it crashes at least 10-15 times a day and I know when it crashed VO
      is
      on, screen curtain on etc is announced.
      I have done a reset - reset to factory settings but still the same.

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      From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
      Behalf
      Of Christopher Chaltain
      Sent: 24. september 2014 13:53
      To: viphone@googlegroups.com
      Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver

      Doing as David suggests is probably best, but it might also be the case
      that your voice was turned off. Try a three finger double tap to toggle
      the voice on and off.

      Also, if you have the home button set as your VoiceOver short cut, try a
      triple tap of the home button. Recycling VoiceOver helps me in similar
      situations. Maybe you can use Siri to turn VoiceOver off and then back
      on as well.

      I've seen a couple of posts now to where IOS 8 with it's VoiceOver bugs
      is compared to blindness specific products or older smart phone
      technologies, like Windows Mobile running Mobile Accessibility. IMHO,
      one of the great things about Apple and their commitment to making their
      main stream products accessible is that we get treated the same as the
      rest of their main stream customers. I fear that if we lower the bar
      with our expectations then we're no better off then when we use those so
      called blind ghetto products that so many people are quick to thumb
      their noses at. Let's give Apple credit where credit is due, but let's
      just not roll over like blind Uncle Tom's being happy with whatever
      accessibility Apple thinks we'll be content with.

      On 09/24/2014 12:18 AM, David Chittenden wrote:

        When VO goes quiet like that, take your fingers away from the iPhone.
        iOS
        is performing memory management. Give a chance for iOS / VO to catch up.
        Something similar occurred with iOS 7 when it first came out. Unlike
        blindness specific poducts which can take six months to a year to be
        fixed, Apple's history is to take one-three months. Let's see what
        happens.

        David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
        Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
        Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
        Sent from my iPhone


          On 24 Sep 2014, at 14:49, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:

          I'm sorry but VoiceOver on my 5S has now complete crap on IOS 8 as for
          the second time today VoiceOver has completely crapped out while
          tapping
          the screen at the same time a push notification comes through.
          VoiceOVer
          just dies and if I press the home button and tell Siri to tell Siri to
          turn VO on Siri tells me VO is already on. Ok, really then why am I
          hearing nothing but clicks. Then I go to press the power on/off button
          and the home button to restart the phone and now that doesn't work as 
I
          hear the photo being taken sound. Really impressive job with IOS8
          Apple.
          I'm sorry but this IOS 8 release with all of its bugs is total crap 
and
          a
          really piss poor job by Apple for the blind community. If you haven't
          upgraded yet don't until 8.1 and that is if Apple can be bothered to
          actually make some VO changes in that one as it is obvious there
          engineers are more focused on other areas and VoiceOver is at the
          bottom
          of the food chain. Time to start at least listening to what Droid is
          doin

      g, never thought I would say that having been on the iPhone since the 3GS
      and completely shifting all my products to Apple, but this release and
      the
      35 or so VO bugs is making me start to think maybe Apple isn't the
      answer.


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