My main problem, aside from the frustrating bug where spaces don't always 
register, is Table Mode. No matter how I turn my phone, or how many times I go 
to Away Mode and then back to Table Mode, or how many times I calibrate, Table 
mode is backwards. Dots 1-3 are on the right hand, while dots 4-6 are on the 
left. In fact, calibrating in this mode makes it worse, as I usually end up 
with dot 1 *between* dots 2 and 3, instead of preceding them. Away mode works 
fine, it's only Table Mode that seems to hate me. :)
On Sep 25, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't think you can make that comparison with your 4s unless the new 
> braille input really is exactly mbraille. The only reason I question this is 
> that for some reason, though I know other people had great success and I am 
> glad for them, I never could at all master mbraille and yet I am doing well 
> with the built-in system. That's not a criticism of mbraille or a defense of 
> the built-in system; it just makes me question whether the two systems are 
> actually totally the same and can be reliably compared as to the performance 
> of mbraile on a 4s still running iOS7 and the built-in system   on a phone 
> running iOS8. It seems to me that for me to have had so much trouble with one 
> and be doing well on the other, there must be some difference between the two 
> but i don't know what that difference would be. What does seem obvious is 
> that some people who do well on mbraille are having trouble with the built-in 
> system and at least one person who could not manage mbraille is doing well 
> with the built-in system.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Deb Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Well I think I'm following all the instructions just fine. I haven't
>> seen anything I didn't know. But when I'm in exploring mode, I get one
>> pattern correctly named, change one figer and it gives me an entirely
>> unrelated pattern even though some fingers have not moved at all. I
>> get the same results in table top or landscape mde. I can confirm that
>> with my 4S, which was not upgraded, I can still use MBraille just
>> fine. So there may be something about my phone itself.
>> 
>> On 9/25/14, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Actually, the home button does not have to be on the left for tabletop mode
>>> though the default has the dots going 1 through 6 from left to right with
>>> the home button the left so that turning it with the home button on the
>>> right would make them backwards. . You can go to away mode and then turn the
>>> phone around with the home button facing right and go back to tabletop mode
>>> and get dots 1 through 6 still going from left to right. The same is true in
>>> away mode; the home button does not have to be on the right. Everything is
>>> totally reversible and you can have the home button wherever you want it at
>>> any time.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>> never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>> 
>>>> I've noticed some folks having difficulties with this and posting to other
>>>> threads, so I thought I'd make a thread dedicated to it and post a few
>>>> hints.
>>>> 
>>>> Try the following for practice. Go into Notes or a new mail message. Turn
>>>> to the Braille screen input item on the rotor. There are two ways to
>>>> position the device for Braille. You can use "screen-away mode", which
>>>> makes it possible to point the screen away from you in landscape mode with
>>>> the home button to the right, or "tabletop mode", which lets you place the
>>>> device on a flat surface with the home button to the left.  In screen-away
>>>> mode, the dots are arranged "accordion fashion" with dots 1-2-3 on the
>>>> left short side and dots 4-5-6 on the right short side. In tabletop mode,
>>>> the dots are arranged on the long side closest to you. When you begin
>>>> practice, hold your hands pressed on the device until you hear "explore
>>>> mode", and Voiceover will tell you which dots are pressed. You will exit
>>>> explore mode when you lift a finger. With explore mode, it's a lot easier
>>>> to have sounds on, because you'll hear some tones before you enter this
>>>> mode. Space using a right-flick, backspace using a left-flick, new line
>>>> with two-finger-right-flick, switch between contracted and six-dot
>>>> uncontracted with a three-finger-right-flick.
>>>> 
>>>> Chime in with other hints. I'm sure there are things I missed. :)
>>>> 
>>>> HtH,
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
>>>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
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