I'm not sure what you mean by the references below to not being able to
use Android phones or Windows computers off the shelf. A blind person
can enable Talk Back on an Android phone without any sighted assistance.
I've done this myself on a Nexis 7. Windows has also added a hot key to
start Narrator. I'm not sure if I could have set up my wife's Windows 8
computer without any sighted assistance, but after she set up her
account, she handed it to me and I was able to start Narrator, set up my
account and download NVDA without any sighted help.
If you mean that Android and Windows don't have screen access built into
their system and can be setup without sighted assistance then I don't
think that's an accurate statement. If you mean that Talk Back and
Narrator aren't as polished as VoiceOver then that may be true, but
blind people can definitely use Android.
On 09/29/2014 06:14 AM, alia robinson wrote:
The only way to improve products is to use them and report bugs when we find
them, as stated before if every person using accessibility stopped buying it
wouldn't make not a single bit of difference, and apple isn't making money off
accessibility; they could just stop doing it, period. I can't go in and buy an
android phone off the shelf and use it. I can't buy a windows computer right
off the shelf and use it. I can with apple, and no they don't have to do it at
all. The only way to improve things is from within, and refusing to buy will do
nothing for accessibility.
Alia
On Sep 29, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Pablo Morales <[email protected]> wrote:
Sieghard
If you continue defending the apple business, you will not be improving your
life quality. You will not improve the apple devices, you will not improve
the IOs8 quality either. Maybe you are protecting your own business now, but
one year ago, I said the same things that now the people on the list, and
around the world is saying. Apple is abusing.
But if you continue on that position, next year this issue is going to be
worse, not better. Business doesn't work like this.
They want the money of the customers, if they don't receive our money, they
need to improve their products, to make it fancy or attractive for us.
They will not improve IOs 8 quality, or accessibility quality, if we looks
so happy with their job. When you every year pay almost a thousand of
dollars for one new apple phone, it means that you are happy with what ever
they have done. Again, I am not talking about only about blind people. I am
talking about every body, because you and every body here, been blind, is
people, right?
Ok, it is my point. Many times, we run to the apple store, to buy what ever
they put on their desks. They are making money with our money. But we are
getting a lot of problems with their IOs releases every year. What is the
solution?
Run and buy a new iPhone every year?
Get the IOs bugs, and wait until apple developers fix their bugs?
Be patience with apple?
They are patience with the customers?
Are you paying them little bit by little bit, or you have to pay everything
on one time, or you have to sign a contract for 2 or 3 years with who ever
sales iPhones?
Why we have to be patience??
No, of course no.
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