On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 02:58:42PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 27/02/2014 14:42, Ademar Reis ha scritto:
> >I believe we're all in sync here with the goals. What we're not
> >in sync is how to implement it in practice (and I don't see
> >anything in the message from Paolo that makes me believe he wants
> >the old next concept back).
> 
> As 5% developer, 95% "power user" of virt-test, all I want is a
> master branch that I can use for both of these tasks:
> 
> a) developing simple patches and bugfixes
> 
> b) running a few simple test matrices.  Most of the time, all I do
> is just a sequence of 16 unattended installs with "./run -c
> install.cfg -t qemu".  Yet it breaks all the time!
> 
> 
> I only update when I have a particularly pressing itch that requires
> me to cook a patch, or when I have to test some new guest that has
> just been added.  Roughly it's every 2-3 months.  All I know is that
> when "next" existed, using master just worked, while right now I
> cannot even use stable releases because they're just as unstable as
> master.  This is what made me worry about declining quality of
> releases.
> 

You're being bitten by the timing: with the split into test
providers, this is probably the worst time ever to evaluate the
stability of virt-test.

In the long term, what you probably want is to use a stable
release (there should be new releases every week or so). 5% of
the time you should run master to submit a patch or get a recent
fix before a release is made.

> I don't care much about how the integration branch is done.  Whether
> it's done by automatic scripts or by the maintainer doing "push -f"
> repeatedly is a detail that I would not be exposed to.  It's quite
> possible that Lucas was not doing it in a very orthodox way, and
> that it was time consuming.  However, the lack of an integration
> branch IMHO can be perceived in day-to-day development and usage of
> autotest.

Thanks for clarifying. Again, I think we all agree here.

Cheers.
   - Ademar

-- 
Ademar de Souza Reis Jr.
Red Hat

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