On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:42:34 +0200
Halil Pasic <pa...@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On 04/11/2018 09:50 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:11:27 +0200
> > Halil Pasic <pa...@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> >> +\item Notifications (via hypercall and virtual interrupts).  
> > 
> > Why 'virtual' interrupts? Better call this 'I/O interrupts' (includes
> > both classic and adapter interrupts)?
> >   
> 
> The idea was 'hypercall' and 'virtual' should harmonize well. These
> I/O interrupts are kind of 'real' from the perspective of the virtual
> machine, but are 'virtual' from the perspective of HW and AR perspective. 

Yes, but that's an implementation detail. I/O interrupts follow the
same architecture in any case, there's nothing special about I/O
interrupts for virtio.

> 
> What I mean, there is AFAIU no way to implement a control unit
> and device combo in HW attach it to a z box and do virtio over CIO
> naively.

It does not seem completely impossible (I/O interrupts are abstractions
already). The diagnose notification might be a problem, though :)

> 
> Even with classic I/O interrupts we have to do set indicator + inject
> subchannel interrupt to realize a notification. This is however
> form core perspective one notification/even/interrupt.

But the I/O interrupt + indicators combination already exits (cf.
QDIO). I don't think we should single out virtio.

> 
> So this is why I added this 'virtual' (to hint it may not fit anything
> one can find in the PoP perfectly).

I certainly would welcome addition of the adapter interrupt
architecture to the PoP :)

> 
> >> +\end{itemize} 
> >> +
> >> +\subsubsection{Channel Commands for Virtio}\label{sec:Virtio Transport 
> >> Options / Virtio
> >> +over channel I/O / Basic Concepts/ Channel Commands for Virtio}
> >> +
> >>  In addition to the basic channel commands, virtio-ccw defines a
> >>  set of channel commands related to configuration and operation of
> >>  virtio:
> >> @@ -1958,6 +1969,36 @@ virtio:
> >>  #define CCW_CMD_READ_STATUS 0x72
> >>  \end{lstlisting}
> >>  
> >> +\subsubsection{Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio
> >> +over channel I/O / Basic Concepts/ Notifications}
> >> +
> >> +Available buffer notifications are realized as a hypercall. No additional
> >> +setup by the driver is needed. The operation of available buffer
> >> +notifications is described in section \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options /
> >> +Virtio over channel I/O / Device Operation / Guest->Host Notification}.
> >> +
> >> +Used buffer notifications are realized either as so called classic or as
> >> +adapter interrupts depending on a transport level negotiation. The  
> > 
> > "as so-called classic or adapter I/O interrupts"?  
> 
> Valid. These are indeed called 'adapter I/O interrupts' through out
> this spec. I was i a hurry to write up something demonstrating he idea,
> so I did not check this. I think these are usually called 'adapter interrupts'
> (without the I/O in between) elsewhere, but internal integrity is more
> important.
> 
> I will take it.
> 
> > 
> > (I'd really like a reference to I/O interrupts here... especially as
> > the old, never standardized s390 transport used external interrupts.)
> >   
> 
> You mean with the wording you proposed, or something more? If something
> more could you do a patch on top (later)?

I think simply adding "I/O" should be enough.

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